we really do have justice in this country

Corrections though;

ADD PARA 3 OF MY SUBMISSIONS:

Last sentence should read “instructions” and not ‘intructions’.

ADD PARA 4 OF MY SUBMISSIONS:

Sentence 3 should read “then he can re-join it” and not ‘cannot re-join it’.

“Hlophe has never been suspended – he has, in consultation with the Minister, decided to take long leave pending the outcome of the complaint to the JSC – almost like Motata and Jackie Selebi.”
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This is exactly what most Zuma supporters fail to understand! This was done not to indicate that Hlophe is guilty or is being denied of his right to be presumed innocent but he did it out of respect for the office in which he was serving, the judiciary or being a judicial officer!

The respect of the public office which an accused held prior to the allegations against him necessitates that the individual concerned leave the office to maintain respect for that office! It the the reason why Mbeki fired or dismissed Zuma when Zuma refused to leave office until his name is cleared! For him to cling on to power, i.e. being the Deputy-President of the RSA, would have done more injustice to our country in the eyes of the world than to Zuma.

Therefore, on a preponderance of probabilities Mbeki decided that the entire country’s image cannot be tarnished merely because a single individual wants to remain in power until the allegations against him are proved. By then the country’s image would have been tarnished and the investors would have brought the country to its knees because they cannot invest in a country in which the Deputy-President is a suspected curruptee or corruptor, depending on the role played by his financial advisor on his intructions and for his benefit!

This is also applied in the private sector where the share-holders cannot tolerate having as its CEO someone who is alleged to be corrupt! He has to step down until his name is cleared! If we were to think away the moral fibre of Zuma and be left with only the allegations of being corrupt against him, then we would say that he must step aside from the Presidential race until he clears his name and then he cannot re-join it! However, there will still be left his moral fitness or otherwise given the HIV/AIDS status of more than five million South Africans, seen in the lense of his revelations in his rape trial!

I have however not changed my view. In fact, in a post of mine submitted at 1:56 pm (which is still awaiting moderation for some reason or the other), I expressed my total agreement with shakira’s post of Nov 30, 10:22 am and dontgetmestarted’s post of Dec 1, 12:49 pm.

In any case, on the lindelani issue, I agree with you, sne, The Big Slipper and Oscar immediately above. This guy is making himself and, therefore, in the eyes of non-lawers, also other young black lawyers (and the Wits law school where he reportedly qualified), look stupid. The following sentence displays his childish ignorance: “You ask yourself why was judge president suspended with immediate effect upon the complain laid against him?” Hlophe has never been suspended – he has, in consultation with the Minister, decided to take long leave pending the outcome of the complaint to the JSC – almost like Motata and Jackie Selebi. The one who was suspended with immediate effect is Vusi Pikoli.

Judging by his latest offering, this would seem to be true. If lindelani is a lawyer, and is allowed to go unchecked after his rantings here, then we are in trouble.

I will never change my beliefs for no one, I will never compromise my manbeing for no one.

We can never sit aside and look while people are going around calling our president a rapist.

We (and especially me) we never ever tolerate the racist white judges and lawyers who continue to perpetuate their racism within the profession and that is the belief i will die for

If people think I need to be reported to the law society for what i believe in they must go ahead and do so – for what? that i hate white people? i wonder how many white lawyers and judges our there who are practising and sit in our court whereas they continue to be racists.

They won’t be struck from the roll. We judge Lewis continuing to sit in court despite the fact that the complain has been laid (by the Black LawyersAssociation) against her

You ask yourself why was judge president suspended with immediate effect upon the complain laid against him?

These questions remain unanswered! When I raise these concerns I should be struck from the roll, how “wonderful”?

I do not think that you can knock some sense into Lindelani. I am not exactly sure what is wrong with the guy but he has a certain way of looking at things to see exactly what he wants to see! I think the guy needs serious professional help! A brief history into his life would reveal why he has this resentment which he needs to let go of as soon as it is reasonably practicable!