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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22217</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
November 22, 2009 at 19:49 pm

&quot;In fact, I read somewhere that ANC supporters all over the country are leaving the ANC in droves — all because they disagree with Cde Malema.&quot;

In your dreams!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:<br />
November 22, 2009 at 19:49 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, I read somewhere that ANC supporters all over the country are leaving the ANC in droves — all because they disagree with Cde Malema.&#8221;</p>
<p>In your dreams!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22216</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, OK, Maggs, I admit it.

There is more and more evidence that the ANC-voting electorate is sick of Cmd Malema. In fact, I read somewhere that ANC supporters all over the country are leaving the ANC in droves -- all because they disagree with Cde Malema.

Clearly, most ANC supporters are wise men and women who will not stand for having a clown as the public face of the ANC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, OK, Maggs, I admit it.</p>
<p>There is more and more evidence that the ANC-voting electorate is sick of Cmd Malema. In fact, I read somewhere that ANC supporters all over the country are leaving the ANC in droves &#8212; all because they disagree with Cde Malema.</p>
<p>Clearly, most ANC supporters are wise men and women who will not stand for having a clown as the public face of the ANC!</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22214</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
November 19, 2009 at 12:47 pm

That is why voters will continue no doubt to vote for a party for whom Cmd Malema is the mouthpiece.
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Eat your words Mr Dwork!

&quot;The ANC deserved to lose a recent by-election after fielding &#039;a drunkard&#039;, according to Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe.&quot;

&quot;&#039;The ANC got the message loud and clear - this is what the community told them, and they disregarded it and the community then did not vote... they simply stayed at home and the ANC lost. If people in leadership of the branch manipulate processes, the community must be able to punish them, that&#039;s how they will correct it.&#039;&quot;

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&amp;click_id=13&amp;art_id=vn20091122080716832C973674</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:<br />
November 19, 2009 at 12:47 pm</p>
<p>That is why voters will continue no doubt to vote for a party for whom Cmd Malema is the mouthpiece.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Eat your words Mr Dwork!</p>
<p>&#8220;The ANC deserved to lose a recent by-election after fielding &#8216;a drunkard&#8217;, according to Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;The ANC got the message loud and clear &#8211; this is what the community told them, and they disregarded it and the community then did not vote&#8230; they simply stayed at home and the ANC lost. If people in leadership of the branch manipulate processes, the community must be able to punish them, that&#8217;s how they will correct it.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&#038;click_id=13&#038;art_id=vn20091122080716832C973674" rel="nofollow">http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&#038;click_id=13&#038;art_id=vn20091122080716832C973674</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22154</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Pierre.

&quot;All those white people voting for the DA should really be voting for the ANC while poor people who want a revolution should vote for the DA!&quot;

Sort of kick back to the days of Benny Alexander aka Khoisan X - bring it all down and let&#039;s start afresh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Pierre.</p>
<p>&#8220;All those white people voting for the DA should really be voting for the ANC while poor people who want a revolution should vote for the DA!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sort of kick back to the days of Benny Alexander aka Khoisan X &#8211; bring it all down and let&#8217;s start afresh!</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22146</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
November 19, 2009 at 12:47 pm

[Maggs - apologies. Out of condoms. New batch on the way.]
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Hey Dworky - those are not for eating!

Khosi had other ideas with strawberry flavoured.

Since it&#039;s you, what the heck - eat it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:<br />
November 19, 2009 at 12:47 pm</p>
<p>[Maggs - apologies. Out of condoms. New batch on the way.]<br />
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Hey Dworky &#8211; those are not for eating!</p>
<p>Khosi had other ideas with strawberry flavoured.</p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s you, what the heck &#8211; eat it!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22144</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Maggs

&quot;Voters are far more astute than they are given credit for.&quot;

Maggs is so right.

That is why voters will continue no doubt to vote for a party for whom Cmd Malema is the mouthpiece.  In my view, it helps especially that many South African voters are actually or functionally illiterate.  That assists them in getting to grips with the difficult issues -- without being distracted by irrelevancies like printed &quot;facts.&quot;

(It is not only South African voters that are no fools. Look at American voters.
Most of them can read; yet they are more likely to read TV Guide than a newspaper.  American voters showed they were no fools by voting George Bush in with an increased majority in 2004.  Like South African voters, American voters have shown over the years a wonderful ability to grasp their own interests, no matter what the so-called &quot;clever&quot; people, policy wonks, etc., will say.)

[Maggs - apologies.  Out of condoms.  New batch on the way.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Maggs</p>
<p>&#8220;Voters are far more astute than they are given credit for.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maggs is so right.</p>
<p>That is why voters will continue no doubt to vote for a party for whom Cmd Malema is the mouthpiece.  In my view, it helps especially that many South African voters are actually or functionally illiterate.  That assists them in getting to grips with the difficult issues &#8212; without being distracted by irrelevancies like printed &#8220;facts.&#8221;</p>
<p>(It is not only South African voters that are no fools. Look at American voters.<br />
Most of them can read; yet they are more likely to read TV Guide than a newspaper.  American voters showed they were no fools by voting George Bush in with an increased majority in 2004.  Like South African voters, American voters have shown over the years a wonderful ability to grasp their own interests, no matter what the so-called &#8220;clever&#8221; people, policy wonks, etc., will say.)</p>
<p>[Maggs - apologies.  Out of condoms.  New batch on the way.]</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22142</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
November 19, 2009 at 9:25 am

But I would personally be more prone to support a party with a simple but highly attainable slogan like “Jobs for All.”
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C&#039;mon Dworky you can do better than that.

Something like &quot;One settler, one condom&quot; that will get rid of settlers within a generation or two.

Some grouping tried &quot;A chicken in every pot, a car in every driveway&quot; some years ago as part of the campaign to get &quot;better housing&quot;, that rather optimistic campaign fizzled out - maybe they should have asked for cement based concrete and mortar.

Seems like you think that &quot;Jobs for pals&quot; is not a great slogan.

What about &quot;Unlimited mileage&quot; or &quot;Don&#039;t be fooled, there is such a thing as a free lunch&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:<br />
November 19, 2009 at 9:25 am</p>
<p>But I would personally be more prone to support a party with a simple but highly attainable slogan like “Jobs for All.”<br />
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C&#8217;mon Dworky you can do better than that.</p>
<p>Something like &#8220;One settler, one condom&#8221; that will get rid of settlers within a generation or two.</p>
<p>Some grouping tried &#8220;A chicken in every pot, a car in every driveway&#8221; some years ago as part of the campaign to get &#8220;better housing&#8221;, that rather optimistic campaign fizzled out &#8211; maybe they should have asked for cement based concrete and mortar.</p>
<p>Seems like you think that &#8220;Jobs for pals&#8221; is not a great slogan.</p>
<p>What about &#8220;Unlimited mileage&#8221; or &#8220;Don&#8217;t be fooled, there is such a thing as a free lunch&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22141</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Osborne says:
November 19, 2009 at 12:05 pm

Hey Michael - what&#039;s the alternative to the ANC in your view?

p.s. I am fine thank you.

p.p.s Dworky has the condoms :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Osborne says:<br />
November 19, 2009 at 12:05 pm</p>
<p>Hey Michael &#8211; what&#8217;s the alternative to the ANC in your view?</p>
<p>p.s. I am fine thank you.</p>
<p>p.p.s Dworky has the condoms <img src='http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22139</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Osborne says:
November 19, 2009 at 9:17 am

I don&#039;t agree with the circularity proposition.

Political activism is a lot more than fixing one faulty tap during the national elections or &quot;defending the constitution&quot;.

Voters are far more astute than they are given credit for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Osborne says:<br />
November 19, 2009 at 9:17 am</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the circularity proposition.</p>
<p>Political activism is a lot more than fixing one faulty tap during the national elections or &#8220;defending the constitution&#8221;.</p>
<p>Voters are far more astute than they are given credit for.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Osborne</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/arms-deal-chickens-coming-home-to-roost/#comment-22137</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;post-apartheid security&#8221; = &#8220;post-apartheid society&#8221;</p>
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