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		<title>By: John Kruger</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-4729</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kruger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally moronic De Vos- you have not seen the papers and yet you condemn or even denigrate the application.  That is real lawyerly and scholarly!  The crisis here is of the Concourt&#039;s own making; it pre-empted a process that the JSC was supposed to manage itself.  Judge Hlophe&#039;s request for declaratory order from the Court ca certainly not be granted by the JSC as it is without legal authority to do so- the JSC only investigates and makes recommendatios to the President and parliament.  Once you have read the papers you will be qualified to comment.  Otherwise you sound ridiculous with your ad hominem attacks and rantings about Paul Ngobeni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally moronic De Vos- you have not seen the papers and yet you condemn or even denigrate the application.  That is real lawyerly and scholarly!  The crisis here is of the Concourt&#8217;s own making; it pre-empted a process that the JSC was supposed to manage itself.  Judge Hlophe&#8217;s request for declaratory order from the Court ca certainly not be granted by the JSC as it is without legal authority to do so- the JSC only investigates and makes recommendatios to the President and parliament.  Once you have read the papers you will be qualified to comment.  Otherwise you sound ridiculous with your ad hominem attacks and rantings about Paul Ngobeni</p>
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		<title>By: myran bedhram</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-4022</link>
		<dc:creator>myran bedhram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where can i obtain a copy of Judge hlope&#039;s application papers from????needed urgently</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where can i obtain a copy of Judge hlope&#8217;s application papers from????needed urgently</p>
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		<title>By: Mpho</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-4019</link>
		<dc:creator>Mpho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindelani:

1. Mbeki did an Arthur Andersen.
2.  I agree though, Africans don&#039;t send their leaders to prison.  It is disrespectful.  JZ will never see the inside of a prison cell unless he&#039;s accompanying the Inspecting Judge on a visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindelani:</p>
<p>1. Mbeki did an Arthur Andersen.<br />
2.  I agree though, Africans don&#8217;t send their leaders to prison.  It is disrespectful.  JZ will never see the inside of a prison cell unless he&#8217;s accompanying the Inspecting Judge on a visit.</p>
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		<title>By: lindelani maseko</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-4011</link>
		<dc:creator>lindelani maseko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The anti-revolutionists are yet to fail. They would never get Zuma in there. Mbeki is yet to be investigated on the arms deal and probable be prosecuted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anti-revolutionists are yet to fail. They would never get Zuma in there. Mbeki is yet to be investigated on the arms deal and probable be prosecuted.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-3981</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zuma in an orange suit? Him ruling from prison? The &#039;Con&#039; Court will get him there yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zuma in an orange suit? Him ruling from prison? The &#8216;Con&#8217; Court will get him there yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mpho</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-3977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mpho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Lindelani is trying to pose as Malema!  Whatever next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Lindelani is trying to pose as Malema!  Whatever next?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-3975</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as a layman’s comment: Why doesn’t the CC offer us an apology for going public about the charge against Hlophe?  We would have heard it from the JSC anyway, had they laid a charge. Why did they have to mention the case Hlophe is alleged to have tried to influence? How many CC judges signed the complaint against Hlophe, if not all of them then must we consider this as a complaint by the CC. They have now caused people to doubt their motives. In situations like this it is better to apologise and let the real issues be dealt with. If it about egos then we have a long road to travel before this matter is dealt with and the CC will lose its reputation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a layman’s comment: Why doesn’t the CC offer us an apology for going public about the charge against Hlophe?  We would have heard it from the JSC anyway, had they laid a charge. Why did they have to mention the case Hlophe is alleged to have tried to influence? How many CC judges signed the complaint against Hlophe, if not all of them then must we consider this as a complaint by the CC. They have now caused people to doubt their motives. In situations like this it is better to apologise and let the real issues be dealt with. If it about egos then we have a long road to travel before this matter is dealt with and the CC will lose its reputation.</p>
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		<title>By: lindelani maseko</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-3969</link>
		<dc:creator>lindelani maseko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zuma should lead us in an orange overall, He will be running this country from prison.

I think this is the massage to be sent accross the country especially to those who are anti-Zuma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zuma should lead us in an orange overall, He will be running this country from prison.</p>
<p>I think this is the massage to be sent accross the country especially to those who are anti-Zuma.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-3968</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good sumary of application in b&#039;day
http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/topstories.aspx?ID=BD4A808927</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good sumary of application in b&#8217;day<br />
<a href="http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/topstories.aspx?ID=BD4A808927" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/topstories.aspx?ID=BD4A808927</a></p>
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		<title>By: Samaita</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/hlophe-in-new-attack-on-judiciary/#comment-3967</link>
		<dc:creator>Samaita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>South Africa vehemently opposed the ban on cluster bombs! This is Hlophe&#039;s cluster bomb. No one seems to want their day in court in SA anymore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>South Africa vehemently opposed the ban on cluster bombs! This is Hlophe&#8217;s cluster bomb. No one seems to want their day in court in SA anymore!</p>
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