Comments on: Jacob Zuma has flouted ethics rules before

By: anton kleinschmidt

anton kleinschmidt — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:32:55 +0000

This is one debate that needs to be kept alive by whatever means available, and this includes repetition. This may create a climate where South Africa does not simply go the way of all other failed African states (including and specifically Zimbabwe.)

Let us all hope that this country has the critical mass of informed and intelligent voters to ward off banana republic status. I am heartened by the fact that the alliance spokespeople seem unable to produce responses which even start to deal with the myriad scandals besetting them at present. They are incoherent and increasingly out of their depth. This is good for all of us.

Mpho…on the subject of repetion, you have now said the same thing four times

By: ewald

ewald — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:07:56 +0000

Zuma doesn’t have a honest atom in him. And he is probably the most expensive president this country has ever had. Why did he hide behind his constitutional rights when the NPA was trying to gather evidence against him and frustrated their attempts which in the end cost the country millions which could have gone into building schools and other things? As a true ‘African Patriot’ why didn’t he say: “Look comrades, I am not scared and I have nothing to hide and don’t want to waste your money, so I am not going to call on Hulley and constitutional protection and so on. Here are ALL my computers and ALL my diaries and ALL my scribbled notes and WHATEVER ELSE you want I will let you have it without any trouble. You scrutinise and be the judge, my conscience is clear”.

Those eyes are not misaligned for no reason. Hope it is not in the genes, God forbid.

By: Mpho

Mpho — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:49:23 +0000

It’s truly amazing how easily you can all be turned from the fascinating text you were formerly praising, to swinging your handbag at anyone who merely asks for a piece of original writing.

By: John Roberts

John Roberts — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:32:40 +0000

Thankfully, Mpho, we are not reliant on yourr determination of intelligence and man has devised sophisticated testing for this.

And we all know where you fall on the Bell-curve now, don’t we ?

By: Mpho

Mpho — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:05:34 +0000

Pierre, isn’t that why God in her infinite wisdom created the hyperlink? Link to what you have said before. It was sound, but claiming some need to ram your point home by cut and paste repetition insults the intelligence of your followers, the memory of those of us that remain Alzheimers free and prevents you from properly using that big brain of yours to find a new angle. (Obviously I exclude from the list of intelligent, Alzheimer free readers those who have already cheered you on).

By: Pierre De Vos

Pierre De Vos — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:36:18 +0000

Mpho, people have short memories. Sometimes it is useful and necessary to remind everyone of that which we as a society have collectively been persuaded to forget. As Milan Kundera famously wrote: “The struggle against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting.” Sometimes it becomes and ethical imperative to repeat something in order to keep alive the moral vision of justice and ethics. Those who wish to sink back into a state of moral amnesia in order to allow them not to question their ideological and political commitments and their support for that which is wrong, often get irritated when some among us keep harping on about injustice, corruption and criminality, the flouting of law, and the inconvenient facts which allow many to continue their support for injustice and abuse of power. That is why some white people just hate it when one reminds them of the injustices of apartheid. That is also why some ANC supporters hate it when one reminds them of the sorry saga around the bribing of Jacob Zuma by Schabr Shaik.

By: John Roberts

John Roberts — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:06:36 +0000

Mpho

The point you miss is that the government at the moment IS like a soap-opera.
Multiple plots, comedy, tragedy, dark forces, changing cast, lies, sex, illegitimate children, rowdy uncontrollable kids (Julius), theft, corruption, greed …..

The list is endless.
Viva Pierre’s soap-opera Viva.

By: sirjay jonson

sirjay jonson — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:41:46 +0000

Mpho: sounds like its you who climbed out of the wrong side of your bed this morning. Its just frustration you’re expressing; we all feel it, being far too long sickened by the absurdity of what continues to unfold in South Africa.

I do note however, that the pressure from civil society, including the postings on umpteen blogs and news releases, is actually pressuring our noted miscreants, and gradually I believe, leading to a difference. This public pressure of outrage and disgust must be kept up, as disheartening as its stimulus is.

Imagine if it wasn’t voiced at all. Its a different tsunami rising, or perhaps just the expected withdrawal of Zuma’s.

By: Mpho

Mpho — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:32:05 +0000

Get out the wrong side of the bed this morning dear?

I am not at all concerned by the content of your blog. I agreed with what you said the time before and agree with it now also. But the fact of the matter is that it has been said. By you. Here. So please, say something new – on this topic or on another – or simply copy and paste all the comments from the last time you published this and save us the bother of repeating what we had to say too.

By: Pierre De Vos

Pierre De Vos — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:22:22 +0000

Oh dear Mpho, sorry I offended you. The fact that you did not engage with the substance of the Blog suggests however that you are cross with me for reminding you of rather uncomfortable facts which are incontrovertible but which cause you pain – a bit like a battered wife turning on a friend because the friend has reminded her that her husband beats her up and that it might be better to leave him.