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	<title>Comments on: Jacob Zuma&#8217;s promises come back to haunt him</title>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu - maggsnaidu@hotmail.com</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-41376</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu - maggsnaidu@hotmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leigh says:
February 13, 2010 at 15:37 pm

&quot;Maggs, with all respect, you either missed the core thrust of my posts or you chose to ignore that thrust. When I made out that things are in a shambles, I was not just stating the obvious. In addition, I made that point as part of a broader position. And that broader position is this: if we can expect rational behaviour from the ANC, then we can expect the party to (a) offer cogent refutations of bad press and (b) counteract bad press by putting forward examples of jobs well-done. That apparently the ANC does little of either – especially given the prevalence of bad press about the ANC generally and, more narrowly, about certain ANC figures – gives me to believe that either (a), the party is generally irrational or more likely (b), the party has precious little good news to report.&quot;

Hey Leigh

Wherever you are, may you rest in peace.

And while you&#039;re at it, also read the the SAIRR report.

&lt;i&gt;Johannesburg - A new survey, which will be ­released this week, challenges the “widely held” belief that the ANC government has failed to deliver basic services since coming into power in 1994. ...

&lt;b&gt;“Without exception, the data demonstrate significant improvements across almost every living conditions indicator,” says ­Cronje.&lt;/b&gt;

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Survey-Service-delivery-failure-a-myth-20110123</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leigh says:<br />
February 13, 2010 at 15:37 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Maggs, with all respect, you either missed the core thrust of my posts or you chose to ignore that thrust. When I made out that things are in a shambles, I was not just stating the obvious. In addition, I made that point as part of a broader position. And that broader position is this: if we can expect rational behaviour from the ANC, then we can expect the party to (a) offer cogent refutations of bad press and (b) counteract bad press by putting forward examples of jobs well-done. That apparently the ANC does little of either – especially given the prevalence of bad press about the ANC generally and, more narrowly, about certain ANC figures – gives me to believe that either (a), the party is generally irrational or more likely (b), the party has precious little good news to report.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey Leigh</p>
<p>Wherever you are, may you rest in peace.</p>
<p>And while you&#8217;re at it, also read the the SAIRR report.</p>
<p><i>Johannesburg &#8211; A new survey, which will be ­released this week, challenges the “widely held” belief that the ANC government has failed to deliver basic services since coming into power in 1994. &#8230;</p>
<p><b>“Without exception, the data demonstrate significant improvements across almost every living conditions indicator,” says ­Cronje.</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Survey-Service-delivery-failure-a-myth-20110123" rel="nofollow">http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Survey-Service-delivery-failure-a-myth-20110123</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: SILENCE MATSILLE</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-29035</link>
		<dc:creator>SILENCE MATSILLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 10:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! HOW NICE HE IS

no matter how people talk jacob zuma is our president.we cant take care about his bedroom life.we only take care about service provider.

mandela have improved a lot,then come mbeki, now give our president a chance archieve his manifesto. 
SHAPA ZUMA SHAPA!</description>
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<p>no matter how people talk jacob zuma is our president.we cant take care about his bedroom life.we only take care about service provider.</p>
<p>mandela have improved a lot,then come mbeki, now give our president a chance archieve his manifesto.<br />
SHAPA ZUMA SHAPA!</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-25402</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-25269</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gwebecimele says:
February 16, 2010 at 9:31 am

&quot;I agree with u this will not work especially in parliament and cabinet level.
There is a big catch in Balfour and the ANC is not ready to press the start button.&quot;

Proportional representation is a double edged sword.

Political parties can deploy whomever they want.

And they can recall whomever they want.

Since the advent of the rent-a-crowd brigade we&#039;ve seen the unsoundness of that approach.
    
I read that &quot;Malema is the only jewel that we have&quot; - if this is true, the ANC that I thought I knew is dead -  but I suspect that it&#039;s just one oke sucking up to secure a powerful position. Either way - EISH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwebecimele says:<br />
February 16, 2010 at 9:31 am</p>
<p>&#8220;I agree with u this will not work especially in parliament and cabinet level.<br />
There is a big catch in Balfour and the ANC is not ready to press the start button.&#8221;</p>
<p>Proportional representation is a double edged sword.</p>
<p>Political parties can deploy whomever they want.</p>
<p>And they can recall whomever they want.</p>
<p>Since the advent of the rent-a-crowd brigade we&#8217;ve seen the unsoundness of that approach.</p>
<p>I read that &#8220;Malema is the only jewel that we have&#8221; &#8211; if this is true, the ANC that I thought I knew is dead &#8211;  but I suspect that it&#8217;s just one oke sucking up to secure a powerful position. Either way &#8211; EISH!</p>
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		<title>By: Gwebecimele</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-25268</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwebecimele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mouse

Your comment will not go down well with the Zulus around here. 

@ Maggs

This Monitoring and Evaluation, Performance contracts are thrown at us as if they are the &quot;Cure all&quot; in Zulu &quot;Zifozonke&quot; of our problems. My greatest worry is  that 99% of the Plubic servants are not equiped for this function.

I agree with u this will not work especially in parliament and cabinet level.
There is a big catch in Balfour and the ANC is not ready to press the start button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mouse</p>
<p>Your comment will not go down well with the Zulus around here. </p>
<p>@ Maggs</p>
<p>This Monitoring and Evaluation, Performance contracts are thrown at us as if they are the &#8220;Cure all&#8221; in Zulu &#8220;Zifozonke&#8221; of our problems. My greatest worry is  that 99% of the Plubic servants are not equiped for this function.</p>
<p>I agree with u this will not work especially in parliament and cabinet level.<br />
There is a big catch in Balfour and the ANC is not ready to press the start button.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-25267</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymouse says:
February 16, 2010 at 8:15 am

Whatever does this mean????

&quot;Is this also part of his culture? I think not. But then again, ever since Dingane and Mpande, Zulu culture has been somewhat suspect when it comes to gaining control of government and governance.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymouse says:<br />
February 16, 2010 at 8:15 am</p>
<p>Whatever does this mean????</p>
<p>&#8220;Is this also part of his culture? I think not. But then again, ever since Dingane and Mpande, Zulu culture has been somewhat suspect when it comes to gaining control of government and governance.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-25266</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gwebecimele says:
February 16, 2010 at 8:07 am

&quot;Having watched ANC MP’s how they carefully stick to the prepared speech during debates in parliament, I doubt if this will work&quot;

MPs will proceed cautiously - many people were dismissed for not &quot;towing the party line&quot; or had quit because they could not follow their conscience in in the very recent past.

There&#039;s nothing to protect MPs who challenge the order of the day. There&#039;s not guarantee that a new Chief Whip with a different thinking will not replace Motshega in the foreseeable future.

Unless there are major changes to the way we function, all this is really a lot of hot air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwebecimele says:<br />
February 16, 2010 at 8:07 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Having watched ANC MP’s how they carefully stick to the prepared speech during debates in parliament, I doubt if this will work&#8221;</p>
<p>MPs will proceed cautiously &#8211; many people were dismissed for not &#8220;towing the party line&#8221; or had quit because they could not follow their conscience in in the very recent past.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing to protect MPs who challenge the order of the day. There&#8217;s not guarantee that a new Chief Whip with a different thinking will not replace Motshega in the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>Unless there are major changes to the way we function, all this is really a lot of hot air.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-25265</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gwebecimele says: 
February 16, 2010 at 7:59 am

Hoo boy?!  Corruption (and nepotism) flowing down from the big man himself, to his girlfriens, (to his children?), to his government structures (at least at Provincioal level in his heimat, KwaZulu-Natal). Is this also part of his culture? I think not. But then again, ever since Dingane and Mpande, Zulu culture has been somewhat suspect when it comes to gaining control of government and governance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwebecimele says:<br />
February 16, 2010 at 7:59 am</p>
<p>Hoo boy?!  Corruption (and nepotism) flowing down from the big man himself, to his girlfriens, (to his children?), to his government structures (at least at Provincioal level in his heimat, KwaZulu-Natal). Is this also part of his culture? I think not. But then again, ever since Dingane and Mpande, Zulu culture has been somewhat suspect when it comes to gaining control of government and governance.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwebecimele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwebecimele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article308760.ece

Having watched ANC MP&#039;s how they carefully stick to the prepared speech during debates in parliament, I doubt if this will work.</description>
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<p>Having watched ANC MP&#8217;s how they carefully stick to the prepared speech during debates in parliament, I doubt if this will work.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwebecimele</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/jacob-zumas-promises-come-back-to-haunt-him/#comment-25263</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwebecimele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&amp;click_id=13&amp;art_id=vn20100216060737382C595950

When you think it just can&#039;t get worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&#038;click_id=13&#038;art_id=vn20100216060737382C595950" rel="nofollow">http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&#038;click_id=13&#038;art_id=vn20100216060737382C595950</a></p>
<p>When you think it just can&#8217;t get worse.</p>
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