Comments on: Mowbray, Kaap IS scary – if you are black

By: Why We Are White Refugees

Why We Are White Refugees — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:03:05 +0000

Did 142 Academics Get it WRONG on Crime?, PoliticsWeb

In the letter, addressed to the Charge d’Affaires of Canada in South Africa, the signatories protested that “it is simply untrue that white people are being targeted disproportionately. ………..

Given the eminence of the signatories, their sheer weight in numbers, and its apparent plausibility, this assertion has gone largely unquestioned. But is it true? A number of crime victimisation surveys have been conducted over the past decade. Do they support, or contradict, the claims of this combination of learned academics?……………. [facts from surveys......]

Politicsweb did contact four of the signatories asking for the sources for their claims on crime. At the time of publication this had not been supplied……

Another question is why over a hundred of our top academics appended their signature to a document without (apparently) interrogating its factual accuracy?.

Very, Very Good Question…

Easy Answer…. White Guilt Poverty Pimping is Quite the Rage these days in Academia… ??

By: Jacques

Jacques — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:36:21 +0000

Hell, Pierre, do you regard an estate agent’s sales talk as good “evidence” to put forward? I don’t think it would work in a court of law.
But seriously, living not too far from Mowbray, I would argue there are two Mowbrays: the so-called little Mowbray, that’s largely gentrified and quite a nice place to hang out (the estate agent’s description would more or less work for that area, and I suspect you lived there, Pierre – given that you live to tell the tale); and the Mowbray closer to Main Road, which I avoid like the plague. If our man Huntley was mugged as many times as he claims, it would probably have been in that vicinity. (But what on earth was he doing there, the dunce? Looking for recreational drugs?). I guess my opinions on the less pleasant part of Mowbray reveal me to be a (closet) racist, like all Whiteys…

By: Why We Are White Refugees

Why We Are White Refugees — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:26:28 +0000

Is Black on White Crime in South Africa racially motivated?

Know any journalist who is willing to put their money where their mouth is, on their opinion? A blogger journalist is willing to put a Krugerrand (R10,000) on her opinion that black on white murder, rape and assault is racially motivated….

Any journalist willing to put thier money where their mouth is, and take the bet?

By: Harold Ferwood

Harold Ferwood — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:05:15 +0000

Just like HIV/AIDS, there is no vaccine yet for HLOPHEPHOBIA ….

By: Skhokho Radebe

Skhokho Radebe — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:16:48 +0000

@PM, thanks for the link, will read the article.

@Leigh and Chris Mcdaniel, i’m straight as they come, and do not find white man attractive at all. I like women.

By: Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:27:17 +0000

Skhokho is right. Soweto is incomparably richer than Sandton.

I support the Justice for Hlophe J. group. Kriegler J (ret.) and now Tutu are surely racists. But I do think the Justice for Hlophe group should now turn their efforts to ensuring the Motata J is placed on the Constitutional Court.

I am not saying that Motata J should immediately become CJ. But I do think he should be “groomed” for that position.

By: Leigh

Leigh — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:26:05 +0000

Samantha, thank you for the link. And I have to say with respect, the ANC’s capacity to resist logic is quite awesome. Drag the top down as opposed to trying to raise the bottom: that is just daft. And this course certainly appears to be in keeping with the ANC’s apparent goal of crippling core institutions.

By: Samantha

Samantha — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:09:23 +0000

Perhaps Brandon isn’t so stupid after all and all right-minded people should be seeking refugee status in other countries, because if the ANC continue in their path to seek and destroy every functioning institution in this country, there will be nothing left.

Our Minister of Basic Education is attempting to push through regulations which will prevent schools from topping up teachers’ salaries. The resultant effect could be disastrous to our education system, leaving us with more ill-equipped youth and less job creation.

This article is quite terrifying for me as a parent, and it should be very worrying for everyone in this country:

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=142271&sn=Detail

By: Anonymouse

Anonymouse — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:52:58 +0000

Sarah – I was actually trying to mislead you, Chris and others on the geographical location of Orania (you know – the old apartheid style of divide and rule?). Orania is situated somewhere Sout-South West of Kimberley – near Luckhoff and Petrusville – but still in the Northern Cape, and, yes, it is part of the Karoo. The rest of my post above, however, is true. Google it!

Skhokho – “there are mansions in Soweto, eg The late Godfather of Soweto has a Mansion there so is a lot other people.” … Exactly! Some have pig-leather ceilings. Some have nine or more bedrooms. Most of them have large LCD or Plasma TV’s. Most of them have beautiful women living inside of them. … However, how many murders, robberies, rapes and burglaries have there been encountered in those mansions (as opposed to in the abodes of the much poorer people of Soweto)? … And then again, compare those figures to the stats in other (white) towns or cities. … If you honestly do the computations, I think you might find that Michael Osborne has a point (like always).

By: PM

PM — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:47:22 +0000

Regarding Mundaene’s book–you might be interested in the following paper: “The Slave Trade and the Origins of Mistrust in Africa”. Here is the abstract, and a link to the full article (.pdf) follows:

ABSTRACT: We investigate the historical origins of mistrust within
Africa. Combining contemporary household survey data with historic
data on slave shipments by ethnic group, we show that individuals
whose ancestors were heavily raided during the slave trade today exhibit
less trust in neighbors, relatives, and their local government. We
confirm that the relationship is causal by using the historic distance
from the coast of a respondent’s ancestors as an instrument for the
intensity of the slave trade, while controlling for the individual’s current
distance from the coast. We undertake a number of falsification tests,
all of which suggest that the necessary exclusion restriction is satisfied.
Exploiting variation among individuals who live in locations different
from their ancestors, we show that most of the impact of the slave
trade works through factors that are internal to the individual, such as
cultural norms, beliefs, and values.

http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/nunn/files/Trust_v6.pdf