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		<title>By: Do you remember the Broederbond? &#171; Nic Borain</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22797</link>
		<dc:creator>Do you remember the Broederbond? &#171; Nic Borain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that inestimable constitutional law professor and blogger Pierre De Vos for details, transcripts and intemperate language and barbed apology There is no doubt &#8211; in my mind, at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SC</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22711</link>
		<dc:creator>SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prof, I shall try not to judge your teaching abilities by the cr@p written by your ex student Farrell , but rather the content of you blog . I agree , but maybe the word &quot;gangster&quot; was a bit harsh . I share your anger and frustration at our very unworthy but charming President ,who is destoying what is left of our Criminal Justice System whilst not missing a dignified beat. As for the electorate not being stupid , was George Bush not elected for a second term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof, I shall try not to judge your teaching abilities by the cr@p written by your ex student Farrell , but rather the content of you blog . I agree , but maybe the word &#8220;gangster&#8221; was a bit harsh . I share your anger and frustration at our very unworthy but charming President ,who is destoying what is left of our Criminal Justice System whilst not missing a dignified beat. As for the electorate not being stupid , was George Bush not elected for a second term?</p>
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		<title>By: Freeboot</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22630</link>
		<dc:creator>Freeboot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I feel ashamed that I have given our President the benefit of the doubt for all these months.&quot;

Entirely predictable and on time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I feel ashamed that I have given our President the benefit of the doubt for all these months.&#8221;</p>
<p>Entirely predictable and on time.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22536</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tatera says:
November 26, 2009 at 17:50 pm

The choice for me is between voting for the ANC and not voting.

I find the other parties dull - they are not going to get my vote or that of those who I am able to influence because the ANC is f...ing up.

Political parties have failed to inspire in spite of all the space that the ANC has created for them, until that changes they will remain on the fringes.

Be that as it may, I am extremely worried about this particular action of President Zuma - choosing someone who has no regard for the constitution is something that I would have expected from Mugabe or Bush, not Zuma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tatera says:<br />
November 26, 2009 at 17:50 pm</p>
<p>The choice for me is between voting for the ANC and not voting.</p>
<p>I find the other parties dull &#8211; they are not going to get my vote or that of those who I am able to influence because the ANC is f&#8230;ing up.</p>
<p>Political parties have failed to inspire in spite of all the space that the ANC has created for them, until that changes they will remain on the fringes.</p>
<p>Be that as it may, I am extremely worried about this particular action of President Zuma &#8211; choosing someone who has no regard for the constitution is something that I would have expected from Mugabe or Bush, not Zuma.</p>
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		<title>By: Farell Fox</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22499</link>
		<dc:creator>Farell Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one last thing...i further understand you say that...&quot;In your opinion...Simelane is not fir and proper and therefore his appointment is unlawful&quot;. 

because Ginwala didnt say this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one last thing&#8230;i further understand you say that&#8230;&#8221;In your opinion&#8230;Simelane is not fir and proper and therefore his appointment is unlawful&#8221;. </p>
<p>because Ginwala didnt say this.</p>
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		<title>By: Farell Fox</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22498</link>
		<dc:creator>Farell Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

Pierre De Vos says: 
November 26, 2009 at 14:34 pm

i tend to disagree with you on that...youe article published in the tabloids clearly said &quot;Simelane&#039;s appointment is unlawful&quot;.

Now i fail to understand your argument about a baby and stove and how it relates to Simelane giving bad evidence in an Inquiry. Further, how that relates to him doing his daily duties as a DG. as far as im concerned, he was pronounced to have given poor/incorrect evidence with no basis in law in an Inquiry...not that he couldnt do his day to day duties properly, which is what you imply from your article!!

further, this is a man who led the competition commission to many successes in the period he was at the helm...im not a fan of Simelane, however it is incorrect, if not injustice in itself, to use your platform to discredit someone who can clearly walk the walk!!

please clarify how he cannot be fit and proper in terms of the NPA ACT!! if i understand your argument correctly, you are saying a director of a listed company who contravenes the King Code rules {not Law btw but accepted standard practice} and receives share options in that company although he is a Non-exec (hint hint: Dr/Prof King the drafter of the codes), is not Fit and Proper to be a director of a public company as per the Companies Act??? I also understand you to mean that, A judge who breaches the Speed Limit by a more than 60kph... is not fit and proper to be a judge (e.g. that Judge in George), i also undertand you to mean, Simelane being kicked out of a High School Board of Governors beacuse he failed to attend three sittings...he is then not fit and proper!

im sure this is not what the NPA ACT had in mind...therefore your words are incorrect Dear Sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Pierre De Vos says:<br />
November 26, 2009 at 14:34 pm</p>
<p>i tend to disagree with you on that&#8230;youe article published in the tabloids clearly said &#8220;Simelane&#8217;s appointment is unlawful&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now i fail to understand your argument about a baby and stove and how it relates to Simelane giving bad evidence in an Inquiry. Further, how that relates to him doing his daily duties as a DG. as far as im concerned, he was pronounced to have given poor/incorrect evidence with no basis in law in an Inquiry&#8230;not that he couldnt do his day to day duties properly, which is what you imply from your article!!</p>
<p>further, this is a man who led the competition commission to many successes in the period he was at the helm&#8230;im not a fan of Simelane, however it is incorrect, if not injustice in itself, to use your platform to discredit someone who can clearly walk the walk!!</p>
<p>please clarify how he cannot be fit and proper in terms of the NPA ACT!! if i understand your argument correctly, you are saying a director of a listed company who contravenes the King Code rules {not Law btw but accepted standard practice} and receives share options in that company although he is a Non-exec (hint hint: Dr/Prof King the drafter of the codes), is not Fit and Proper to be a director of a public company as per the Companies Act??? I also understand you to mean that, A judge who breaches the Speed Limit by a more than 60kph&#8230; is not fit and proper to be a judge (e.g. that Judge in George), i also undertand you to mean, Simelane being kicked out of a High School Board of Governors beacuse he failed to attend three sittings&#8230;he is then not fit and proper!</p>
<p>im sure this is not what the NPA ACT had in mind&#8230;therefore your words are incorrect Dear Sir!</p>
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		<title>By: Tatera</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22471</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggs Naidu says: 
November 26, 2009 at 15:17 pm
“Of course he will be re-elected.
And I will campaign and vote for another Zuma led admin unless something develops to change my mind – that however does not mean that I approve of this and similar matters as you will see from my earlier comments.”

Maggs, you disappoint me.  That you voted for him the first time I can understand, at a stretch, but a second time??!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggs Naidu says:<br />
November 26, 2009 at 15:17 pm<br />
“Of course he will be re-elected.<br />
And I will campaign and vote for another Zuma led admin unless something develops to change my mind – that however does not mean that I approve of this and similar matters as you will see from my earlier comments.”</p>
<p>Maggs, you disappoint me.  That you voted for him the first time I can understand, at a stretch, but a second time??!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22470</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggs Naidu says:
November 26, 2009 at 15:41 pm

Only applies if one has knees and a cerebum</description>
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November 26, 2009 at 15:41 pm</p>
<p>Only applies if one has knees and a cerebum</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22464</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
November 26, 2009 at 15:48 pm

AS both Pierre and Maggs himself have pointed out, the electorate is not stupid. The voters will definitely eject the ANC from power in the next election if it makes such appointments!
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Hey Dworky,

As small change to your interpretation of my view.

&quot;The voters will definitely eject the ANC from power in the next election if the opposition parties can impress!&quot;

Otherwise you&#039;re spot on. As usual!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:<br />
November 26, 2009 at 15:48 pm</p>
<p>AS both Pierre and Maggs himself have pointed out, the electorate is not stupid. The voters will definitely eject the ANC from power in the next election if it makes such appointments!<br />
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<p>Hey Dworky,</p>
<p>As small change to your interpretation of my view.</p>
<p>&#8220;The voters will definitely eject the ANC from power in the next election if the opposition parties can impress!&#8221;</p>
<p>Otherwise you&#8217;re spot on. As usual!</p>
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		<title>By: Tatera</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/neither-fit-nor-proper/#comment-22463</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Musa says: 
November 26, 2009 at 9:28 am
“… . Reading comments from people like Chris equating our president to Mr. Mugabe angers me. …”

Yes, I agree how could he insult Mugabe like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musa says:<br />
November 26, 2009 at 9:28 am<br />
“… . Reading comments from people like Chris equating our president to Mr. Mugabe angers me. …”</p>
<p>Yes, I agree how could he insult Mugabe like that.</p>
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