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On the President, his penis, and bizarre attempts to censor a work of art

The President’s manhood is no laughing matter – at least not for the ANC – whose spin doctors forgot that making a big fuss about something as deliciously humorous as the President’s penis (especially our President with his sexual history and his patriarchal attitudes towards women) has a tendency to draw attention to the very thing (pun intended) one is outraged about and which one demands to be banned. They have also forgotten that one has a tendency to make a fool of oneself if one conflates a work of art with real life and demands that a work of art should be censored for humiliating a real person (albeit a philandering politician). Isn’t that what the old omies of the NG Kerk used to do back in the day?

Did they not watch the movie Howl, about the trial of the publisher of Allan Ginsberg’s long poem of the same name, who was charged with obscenity for publishing the poem. If they had watched this movie, they might have remembered how ridiculous all the state witnesses were made to look during that trial while these witnesses tried to measure a work of artistic expression against a moral standard that was at best vague and at worst impossible to pin down.

I was thus quite amused to read in an ANC press statement that the party “is extremely disturbed and outraged by the distasteful and indecent manner” in which the artist Brett Murray and the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg “is displaying the person (sic) of Comrade President Jacob Zuma”. The ANC is not happy. Patriarchs like to use their penises for all kinds of things, but usually do not like to have them made fun of in a work of art. It insults one’s manhood, I am told.

Hence the ANC tirade which continues: “This disgusting and unfortunate display of the President was brought to our attention by one of the media houses and we have physically confirmed this insulting depiction of the President”. The ANC does not say what this physical confirmation entailed or whether it had determined whether the penis displayed in the art work is sufficiently similar to that of the President to warrant the conflation of art with reality.

I provide a copy of work of art causing all the trouble below so that those who might not have read City Press on Sunday have the chance to enjoy this provocative piece of art and to consider its meaning and esthetic value for themselves. (Feel free to copy it and send it to all your friends! After all, in a democracy making up one’s own mind about something – also the meaning and value of a work of art – is a human right.)

Afterthought: The poster of which this painting is a parody may not be known to everyone, so I repost it here:

The ANC may not be aware of the fact that section 16(1)(c) of the Constitution states that everyone has the right to freedom of expression, which includes “freedom of artistic creativity”.  It is true that no right is unlimited but even where the right to free expression is limited an exception is usually made for artistic expression. Our law often distinguishes between real depictions of individuals and art works and hardly ever allows for the censoring of the latter. For example, section 12 of the Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act (which prohibits hate speech) explicity makes an exception for a “bona fide engagement in artistic creativity”. Section 3 of the Film and Publications Act contains a similar exception.

The fact that the ANC seems incapable of distinguishing between a work of art and real life will probably ruin their legal case they are planning to launch. The ANC statement says that it has instructed its lawyers to approach the courts to compel Brett Murray and Goodman Gallery to remove the portrait from display as well as from their website and to destroy all printed promotional material relating to the work. But given the protection for artistic freedom in the Constitution and the many exceptions in our law made for the expression of such artistic creativity, I am am almost 100 percent certain that the ANC’s proposed legal action will not be successful. In a democracy, courts seldom order the censoring of a work of art – even if that work of art makes fun of the President and his philandering patriarchal ways. I quote the rest of the ANC statement in full for your further gratification.

We have also detected that this distasteful and vulgar portrait of the President has been displayed on a weekend newspaper and its website, we again have instructed our lawyers to request the said newspaper to remove the portrait from their website. It is in our view and we remain steadfast in that the image and the dignity of our President as both President of the ANC, President of the Republic and as a human being has been dented by this so-called piece of art by Brett Murray at Goodman Gallery. We are also of the view that this distasteful depiction of the President has violated his individual right to dignity as contained in the constitution of our country.

The same gallery has displayed the logo of the ANC without the permission of the ANC, with the inscription FOR SALE on it, both these portraits are a clear calculation to dismember and denigrate the symbols and the representative of the ANC, chief amongst them, the President of the ANC. The ANC believes in both freedom of the press and artistic expression. The vulgar portrait and the dismembering of the ANC logo by Brett Murray is an abuse of freedom of artistic expression and an acute violation of our constitution, apart from being defamatory. That is why we have instructed our lawyers to approach the courts in-view of these violations and the defaming nature of the so-called President Zuma portrait titled ”The Spear”.

Issued by:
Jackson Mthembu
African National Congress

As this is a work of art, there is no chance that any half decent judge would grant the orders requested by the ANC, first, because there is no law that prohibits an artist from making such a portrait and second, because if there were such a law it would be unconstitutional. That is why I have taken the liberty to reproduce the artwork here and why I have invited my readers to distribute it widely. There is no place in our democracy for this kind of Christian Nationalist-like moral outrage and the concomitant attempts at censorship of artistic expression.

All the ANC has done is to make themselves (and our President) the laughing stock of the country. In fact, if I was a conceptual artist I would have taken the ANC statement, superimposed it over the ANC logo, and framed it before asking the Goodman Gallery whether it wanted to display my work of art. My work would be humorous, yes, but would also make an important point about artistic expression. I am sure I could have gotten a few thousand Rand for it, too.

  • Michel Weij

    But if he asks Judge Mogoeng nicely…….

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    What a DICK!

  • Anthony

    The artwork omits the shower head and is therefore misleading and inaccurate. I think the ANC should have focussed on that instead of the Honourable member’s member. At least they could then have evinced sympathy if not a ruling in their favour. Shamepies.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    I dunno if the ANC thought through their statement carefully enough.

    “This disgusting and unfortunate display” is certainly not an appropriate way to describe our President’s most prized and used asset.

    On the other hand, maybe it is!

    Dmwangi – WDYS?

    And stop drooling.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    hahahahahahaha!

    LMFAO.

    to dismember and denigrate the symbols and the representative of the ANC

    These okes certainly have a sense of humour or maybe a, er, neutered President?

  • Chris (Not the right wing guy)

    LOL!
    I agree that our prez has brought this over himself, but I’m not so sure that the piece of art can really be called art! Would anyone have looked twice if was not for the penis?
    BTW, I always thought the prez’s most important member must be bigger than that.

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    Chris (Not the right wing guy)
    May 17, 2012 at 19:28 pm

    Hayibo Right Wing Guy,

    “I always thought the prez’s most important member must be bigger than that.”

    You were “always” thinking about the size of prez’s most important member???

    Dm is gonna be peeved.

  • Sam Mthethwa

    The art depicts the life Zuma is leaving,i see nothing with the art.He is morally bankrupt anyway.

  • sirjay jonson

    The best thing about this Prof, is that its not really an insult to JZ, although I know most will disagree with me. So male, so very male. Great. I mean, isn’t that ZUMA.

    As for the more down to earth, practical, daily economic and political melee with their pressure that we live in, and world opinion of course, well, the joke’s on South Africa… and that’s not necessarily bad.

    I love this country but I have to leave the web now, I can’t stop laughing.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Looking again – that could be a gun (a six-shooter mshini wam).

    Hard to say with the shadows.

    Brett WDYS?

    p.s. Sorry to disappoint Right Wing Guy!

  • PM

    Shit, the ANC should take up a collection to purchase the painting.

    Once they own it, and all of the rights to reproduce it, then they can do with it as they want.

  • Brett Nortje

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go! says:
    May 17, 2012 at 17:59 pm

    Maggs, kindly refrain from referring to Cde Jackson in such a disgraceful way.

  • sirjay jonson

    By tomorrow there will probably be an interdict for any media to publish this image
    .
    Its too late, its already overseas and will swiftly with the next hours go around the world. Never before has a pic of a President of a country been made available, even as a painting.

    The Russian Czars skinning dipping as Canadians do protected by law, is the only pic I can remember of this nature, and no penises were evident. There will also now be ongoing global analysis about how South Africa could produce such a work of art (or not, according to opinion) about its president, and thus encourage serious questions about the leadership of South Africa, and what is ‘really happening here’.

    Its too late ANC, all your bugaboos are coming to a head (no pun intended). Time to change.

  • malcolm

    is it erect?

  • Malcolm Wesson

    Will it stand up in Court?

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Brett Nortje
    May 17, 2012 at 20:10 pm

    Hey G,

    I suppose that the ANC has a right to be peeved.

    After all the painting shows the President’s not to be a “member in good standing”.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    de vos:

    correction.

    “especially our President with his sexual history and his patriarchal [African] attitudes towards women)”

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    “I provide a copy of work of art causing all the trouble below so that those who might not have read City Press on Sunday have the chance to enjoy this provocative piece of art and to consider its meaning and esthetic value for themselves.”

    Here I’m thinking GAY PORN. And just guess who wants a getting piece of that.

  • Ivor

    E-toll was the first temporary victory for the people and the Mdluli saga is pending. I’ll contribute my services and my money to the gallery and Brett Murray to fight this matter in court. Can I hear a hell yea for the rule of law!

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    …but let us ponder one second on the artistic manipulation of the meaning and aesthetic value.

    “The red-and-black flag is the symbol of the anarcho-syndicalist and anarcho-communist movements. Black is the traditional color of anarchism, and red is the traditional color of socialism. The red-and-black flag combines the two colors in equal parts, with a simple diagonal split. Typically, the red section is placed on the top-left corner, with the black on the bottom-right corner of the flag. This symbolizes the co-existence of anarchist and socialist ideals within the anarcho-syndicalism movement, and to symbolize the more socialistic means of the movement leading to a more anarchistic end.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_symbolism

  • Ivor

    This is an ode to JZ: Re(member) the tight ones

  • George Gildenhuys

    the irony, this was a non-issue until the ANC made a fuss of it. now it has gone viral.

    As my high school maths teacher used to say: “Kry vir jou”

  • Comfor

    To me its a bit to far th picture shows negative pespective out there to th world,im anti Jz but thats nt th way to exprss ur president his attidute to women mustn’t affect pple its part of his traditional beliefs so why dont we respect that.

  • sirjay jonson

    Well, on a more practical level, although my belly actually aches from laughing so much these last many minutes (my goodness, its 45 minutes) does anyone still or now believe that JZ will get a second term? This art work is actually a killer in my view, and justifies the societal value of political art. Time to think, all of us, who needs to be in place as the next head of the ANC (why not consider this), and then decide enhanced by various online opinions and if necessary, strategies, how to insure the next ANC leader is both sincerely and passionately dedicated to advance the people, and yes, within the present world economic venue.

    Why not, even as minorities, we can start to put forth who we would like to see in power in the new-coming ANC.

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    George Gildenhuys
    May 17, 2012 at 21:14 pm

    I guess your high school maths teacher would give his balls for schlong like that.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    “Addressing Cosatu’s international policy conference on Wednesday, Vavi referred to the bloody confrontation as “frustrations from both sides of the most marginalised sections of our society playing themselves out”: on the one hand, organised workers, “extremely angry and frustrated by poverty wages”, and on the other, “largely unemployed African youth… mobilised by a right-wing party”. According to Timeslive, Vavi warned against the ANC’s policies which, he said, were failing the poor and unemployed. “South Africa as a country is sitting on a ticking bomb that one day will explode … Another 1976 is waiting to happen. If we preoccupy ourselves with palace politics while Rome is burning, then history will judge us equally and harshly,” Vavi was quoted as saying. ”

    Cde Vavi didn’t mention a bizarre preoccupation with Cde Zuma’s penis.

    Even Rome didn’t know such gratuitous decadence and such arrogant contempt for the people.

  • Sibani

    This is quite disrespectful to the president,I don’t care who you are but you don’t do such to anyone be old or young .

  • Ricky

    Strange that nobody has mentioned that it is a spoof of a famous poster of Lenin. You will notice that the depiction of Zuma is standing in the exact same way as Lenin with the hand and the direction of the head. On that poster Lenin is in front of the Sovet flag and some text about Lening always living. In that way it is a bit like the famous pictures that have been changed to include Evita B at the museum in Darling.

  • Ma-K

    I must say, I’m truly appalled by how you all seem to find this funny. Would you hold the same sentiments if this was a painting of Nelson Mandela? I might not be one of J Z’s biggest fans, but I was taught to respect my elders…This is a depiction of someone’s father, grandfather, uncle,for God’s Sake! Have you no shame? Would you still laugh it off and call it art if this was a portrait of you or someone close to you? I would also be offended and angered by this so called art work if it portrayed my father or even myself. So, I ask you again, would you feel the same way you do now, would you write what you wrote if this was a painting of Nelson Mandela?

  • SkyLukeWater

    @Ma-K
    The only funny thing in this whole story is our egotisic president, who’s dick does nothing but embarras me, his party, our country, his children, his wives and himself. Why should we be held accountable for seeing the truth of his actions? He should be held accountable to us!? And please don’t compare him to Mandela.

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    With respect, I think Dmwangi, when he get up, will support me in decrying this assault on the dignity of our leader. Imagine how the liberal press would respond to a so-called “artist” exposing the vulva of Zille in an equivalent depiction. The only reason WHITIST cognicenti deem this work of “art” worthwhile is because it resonates with their ribald construction of African males as insatiable satyrs wielding enormous projections of their phallogocentric essences.

    Thanks.

  • Ma-K

    I’m not comparing him to Mandela,but since Mandela was also a president of this country,he too could have easily been a victim to such ‘art’. As for what is funny about this…ehh…is Zuma the first man in South Africa to marry more than one woman or to be accused of Rape? No one is perfect, and no one deserves to be disgraced in such a manner. What happened to; letting he who has no sins, cast the first stone? What makes us believe we are so righteous that we can quickly judge that Zuma deserves this? I think you have forgotten that at the end of the day, Zuma, is; but just a human being.

  • SkyLukeWater

    @Mikhail
    Perhaps if it were a true reflection of Zille’s character we wouldn’t give a damn but our super-duper ethically-challenged president keeps making the same mistakes. Or perhaps i just don’t respect other cultures, or perhaps my expectations are a tad too high.

  • Dmwangi

    ‘Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 18, 2012 at 0:13 am
    With respect, I think Dmwangi, when he get up, will support me in decrying this assault on the dignity of our leader. Imagine how the liberal press would respond to a so-called “artist” exposing the vulva of Zille in an equivalent depiction. The only reason WHITIST cognicenti deem this work of “art” worthwhile is because it resonates with their ribald construction of African males as insatiable satyrs wielding enormous projections of their phallogocentric essences.’

    I am actually tempted to endorse this statement but I don’t know the motivation of the artist. In any case, I’m not sure how PdV can argue this is Constitutional as ‘free expression’ while trying to censor me for wanting to debate the limits of ‘harm-principle’ with regard to certain moral issues and it’s appropriateness for post-colonial Africa.

    I will now have to remain silent for a bit as I promised PdV I would not violate his blog’s ‘sovereignty’ by posting from abroad. When I return I invite you and Maggs to join me at Fire & Ice for a bottle of Blue label– on you!– where we can debate all the interim issues I will be prevented from commenting on.

    P.S. Sirjay, I again affirm the rights and dignity of all persons, including gays, and find violence against anyone detestable. I was merely engaging a logical point about drawing a limiting-principle vis-a-vis certain public acts and the recognition (and celebration by some) that no such limiting-principle can possibly exist under the ‘harm principle’– it has already been determined by the way ‘harm’ is defined. To the extent my rhetoric was out of line (as most is on this blog), and caused some emotional distress, I have introspected, and find it was counterproductive and regrettable.

  • Ma-K

    @Luke,
    Zille takes offence when simple words are spoken,so,this would have rubbed her off in such a wrong way;she would have personally issued a statement that in comparison to the one released by the ANC would be worthy of an earth quake. Perhaps,you are so blinded by your fury towards the President,that,you cannot see the forest for the trees. Perhaps, you have such hate for him,you fail to see,you are disrespecting and elderly here.

  • missing-the-point

    Well I’m no lawyer, but it seems that the conversation is HEADing in the wrong direction.

    The issue is not whether it is right or wrong to depict anybody like that.

    The issue is the stupid lenghts the ANC is willing to go because “social comentary” does not place their fearless leader in a good light… It seems like in so many other areas of their government they want to dictate the public’s thoughts and behaviour. A tad like control freaks or school yard bullies.

  • Ma-K

    So missing,if this was a picture of you,you would laugh it off and not be in the least bit angered by it?As you deem it stupid to call to order people who view such indecency as art,surely you wouldn’t mind if I perhaps,drew a similar picture of you or a loved one. If a child at your child’s school drew a cartoon with a let’s say a very small penis, and wrote “missing jr’s dad”,would you not go and complain to the principal about the child’s drawing?

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    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 1:48 am

    I like the art work. Being a proud chauvinist commie pig yet sadly infected with the WRHM (White Racist Heterosexual Male) virus pumping through my veins it appeals to my admittedly fucked-up sense of aesthetics at a very deep level.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    The gay Nazi artist syndrome. They also not only hate themselves but everything so typically bestial about Africa.

    http://gaynazis.com/SwastikaGay1.jpg

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    “The man called “The father of National Socialism” was a homosexual pederast.
    After expulsion from the priesthood for gay sex, Lanz Von Liebenfels became a main influence on Hitler. Hitler was a fan of Lanz’ pro-Aryan nationalist publication that contained homo-erotic philosophy. Liebenfels designed the Nazi flag and was the first to fly it.”

    http://gaynazis.com/

  • Chris (Not the right wing guy)

    Is there anything else the prez offers than can be thought about?

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    No revolution is worth anything unless it can defend itself!

    http://geopolicraticus.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lenin_poster.jpg

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Let’s wait to hear what Judge Cameron has to say!

    He cried over “Spud”.

    And he was one of the majority of judges in that silly judgement over the naughty schoolboys – R50 000 later they (the schoolboys that is) learned their lesson!

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 1:48 am

    Hey Ma-K,

    “If a child at your child’s school drew a cartoon with a let’s say a very small penis, and wrote “missing jr’s dad”,would you not go and complain to the principal about the child’s drawing?”

    JR would not be offended.

    That would be an accurate representation of him.

    Except JR is not missing – he’s dead.

    In fact before JR left for Australia he was very, er, standoffish when me and Dworky called him a big dick.

    He moved to, er, Manley to soothe his ego.

    Hey JR – WDYS to Ma-K?

  • khosi

    I see that some among us are not letting go of their fascination with black sexuality. From the mistreatment of Saartjie Baartman; to Charlene Smith’s assertions on rape and African culture; and to now, this rubbish.

    With the current outlook that some white people have on black leadership, I do not think that reconciliation is being done any favours. At all.

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    khosi
    May 18, 2012 at 7:26 am

    Hey Khosi,

    “Charlene Smith’s assertions on rape and African culture”

    I see you’re still talking crap!

    And perpetuating the lie that Mbeki started.

    I challenged you many months ago to prove that – here’s the challenge again – show “Charlene Smith’s assertions on rape and African culture”, if you can.

  • Ricky

    To be honest, Ma-K, Sibani and Khosi, I really do not understand all the fuss. I ccould much better understand why some people thought that Zapiro’s drawing of the President about to take off his pants to rape Lady Justice was offensive as it could be understood to indicate that the President was prone to raping women. But this picture is actually not sexual in character (it is not like the penis on the picture is erect or anything) and it is clear that this is a depiction, not an actual photo or similarof the President.

    Ma-K, you ask if I would still laugh if it was me or my father? Maybe not laugh but I would not mind, I mean, I am a man so I have a penis – what is the big del? Now, if it showed me having sex with an animal or a little kid, that would be different. But that is not the case. And why, Ma-K, does this picture disgrace the President? And how do you know it is meant to say something about the rape case or his many wives? Maybe it is saying that even if he is idolised (like Lenin was), he is still just a human being (with a penis like any other man).

    And, Khosi, this has (in my view) nothing to do with a fascination with “black sexuality” but more to do about humanising (or maybe taking down but I do not really see this) people of power. Last year the Danish royal family was depicted as having an orgy (and, Khosi, they are not black) – and while it was in quite bad taste (as, in my view, a painting of the President and his wives and children having an orgy would be), nobody considered censuring it, going to court or similar.

  • Brett Nortje

    That’s because missing-the-point says:
    May 18, 2012 at 1:34 am

    “Well I’m no lawyer, but it seems that the conversation is HEADing in the wrong direction”

    This is the closest to the essence of the Indunas our 18th century potentate has surrounded himself with in La Nkosi Nostra’s gripe.

    To show respect to the King the Indunas have to defend his honour.

    Hlonipha. and you nasty mhlungus don’t understand it.
    Utheni, Maggs? Honourary nasty mhlungu?

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    Brett Nortje
    May 18, 2012 at 7:47 am

    LOL Goofy,

    “Utheni, Maggs? Honourary nasty mhlungu?”

    If you wanna know why there are 1.2+ billion coolies (and growing) google “Indian temples sex” images.

    Even the donkeys (not you, the real ones) are not safe!

    But don’t tell Dmwangi – he’ll blush.

    :P

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    khosi
    May 18, 2012 at 7:26 am

    Khosi you need to remember they didn’t have “whiteness studies” back in the good old days when PdV read for his first degree at the Aparthied university of Stellenbosch while the uneducated, sexist, communist [African] pig Cde Zuma was doing time for him on Robben Island.

  • Pierre De Vos

    People often conflate two questions because they are unprincipled:

    1) Is this a good piece of art? Is it thought provoking? Is it trading in stereotypes? Etc etc;

    2) Should we ban the work of art because we personally do not like it.

    I expressed an opinion about the second point. Not the first.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    “Critics of the work will be relieved to hear that the buyer lives in Europe and that the work will be shipped off when the show closes.”

    http://www.citypress.co.za/Entertainment/News/R136-000-for-Zumas-jewels-20120512

    They can perhaps put it up for display in the national museum of the Capitalist Republic of Germany in remembrance of the USSR’s defeat over Nazi Germany where we may have won the battle of Stalingrad but on the long run we apparently lost the war.

    But history it ain’t over until the fat lady sings.

  • Thomas

    Ricky says: “Last year the Danish royal family was depicted as having an orgy (and, Khosi, they are not black) – and while it was in quite bad taste (as, in my view, a painting of the President and his wives and children having an orgy would be), nobody censuring ensured it, going to court or similar.”

    That is pure lies (it was Censured ) read the following:

    1. Danish artists’ exhibition cancelled over royal orgy cartoon

    http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Danish-artists-exhibition-cancelled-over-royal-orgy-cartoon/21737

    Comments
    DEFOREST, SYRACUSE

    It is a hollow argument in this case that this is an issue about freedom of speech… Let the artists defend the work on it’s merits rather than on the basis of their freedom to demonstrate it in someone else’s gallery, or not. I suspect if the work had any real traction or significance beyond notoriety and self-aggrandizement, then they would see the groundswell of support they are crying for.

    2.The duo Surrend exhibition is cancelled for depicting the Danish royal family in an orgy

    http://www.arsmagazine.com/news/top/20101020464/scandalous-censorship

    Copenhagen, 10/20/10
    The controversial poster of the royal family having sex has been enough to close the retrospective focused on the artistic duo composed of Jan Egesborg and Pia Bertelsen. Apparently the Danish Poster museum had scheduled the inauguration for the 13th of October and had no knowledge of the inclusion of the censured work.

    Egesborg has taken advantage of the situation to warn about the dangers concerning liberty of speech in the country. Meanwhile Thomas Bloch Ravn, the president of Den Gamle By, the theme city where the museum is located, has defended himself alluding to the comical portrait as a simple ploy deviced to attract attention. The poster has divided the public opinion, in favour and against the work.

    However the most bewildering aspect of the case is that neither the museum director nor his colleagues anticipated the possibility of a similar ocurrence. Jan Egesberg, artist and professor of the Danish royal academy, and Pia bertelsen, journalist and artist, teamed up in 2006 after the death of Milosevic. One of their main goals is to ridiculize powerful figures around the globe. Their most popular incident is probably the publication of an advertisement in a local Tehran newspaper with a negative subliminal message aimed at the Iranian president.

    The scandal seems to be an echo of the same situation that has repreteadly taken place in Spain, specially in the last few years. we all remember the controversy surrounding the cover of the publication El Jueves portraying the heirs to the throne in a similar possition. However it is unlikely that the Danish case will end in court.

  • brooks spector

    serious question now: if the anc lawyers press this case forward, wouldn’t they have to prove that the items in question are the president’s and not someone else’s or simply an artistic representation of an iconic version of a person’s organs – any person….?

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    Pierre De Vos
    May 18, 2012 at 8:16 am

    I agree with you but I don’t necessarily comment on the work itself but its expression of the [racist/fascist] populist themes on Cde Zuma we find in the mass media since 2001 and that pumps like a virus through the many threads of your blog.

  • Pierre De Vos
  • Les

    I think it’s tame. Image the outrage had his penis been erect in the painting!

  • Ricky

    Thomas, sorry, you are absolutely right about the Danish royal family and I apologise. I should have checked the matter and not relied solely on memory. However, it should be noted that the poster was to have been shown in public museum and that it was the leader of the museum’s “mother-museum”, that decided to cancel the exhibition, not censurship from the state, court cases or similar (I think that nobody would challenge the right of the head of the gallery currently showing the Zuma picture to decide whether to exhibit the picture or not). And nobody took any legal steps to prevent the papers etc. from showing the poster.

  • Thomas

    Pierre

    Why did not give permission for pornography on pay television?

    “Satellite television network, TopTV has noted the court decision interdicting it from launching three adult content channels until a final Independent Communication Authority of South Africa (ICASA) decision at the end of the month.”

  • Kalahari Doringboom

    If you were to ask my opinion, I’d hazard that the image has a stronger resemblance to our Mr. Vavi.

  • khosi

    Look, personally I do not think that works of art should be censored. Even this so-called one. Its out. Its done.

    What I am saying is that the creators of these so-called ‘works of art’ cannot escape our disgust and disdain purely because they are creators of content protected by our constitution.

    Smart artist understand the context of their work and they treat context very carefully. They then present that context in a manner that does not seek ridicule. Take Goya’s “El tres de mayo de 1808 en Madrid” for instance. No one can doubt the potency of the message in that painting. BUT there is no vulgar or brutality involved.

    Stupid, narrow-minded artist on the other hand, irresponsibly, stoke fires in a society that is already bedeviled by mistrust. The fact is that we have a so-called artist who is a young white male depicting an elderly African leader in a very comprised posture. It is clear that some among us, will never stop looking at older black males as merely garden boys who exist for their pleasure. I think Athol Fugard addressed this in “Master Harold…and the Boys”.

    This so-called artist and many contributors here is failing to rid himself of this indoctrinated racism. That is why they can’t see the callousness of this so-called ‘work of art’.

  • Thomas

    Sorry: Why did ICASA not give permission for pornography on pay television?

  • Ma-K

    @Maggs

    I think you read my comment so fast that you ended up missing my point. I’m not talking about JR…my example was about missing-the-point’s child thus missing junior or missing jr…Get it now? I was asking missing-the-point that question,so I don’t blame you for not understanding,the comment wasn’t made for you.

    @Ricky,
    ” And why, Ma-K, does this
    picture disgrace the President? And how do
    you know it is meant to say something about the rape case or his many wives?”

    It is a disgrace,because it’s a depiction of a father,a grandfather,an elderly;naked. I don’t know how you were brought up,but I was raised to leave the room when my father is in his underwear,yes underwear…so imagine how degrading I find this piece to be. That is why I feel it’s a disgrace. As for the rape part…I’m not referring to the painting there, but to the comment made by SkyLukeWater, when he said “our egotisic president, who’s dick does nothing but embarras me, his party, our country, his children, his wives and himself.”. The only things he could possibly be referring to, with regard to his manhood, are the things that are done with his manhood, thus the reference to the so called rape and his polygamy.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    BTW – besides for my own political views I believe it is a fine [yet nasty] piece of work and it should not be banned.

    I’m just wondering if the author of this blog would be so open minded had the theme of the work covered some taboo or politically correct subject i.e. Holocaust or Apartheid denialism, “gay bashing” or an apparent endorsement of misogyny.

    From some of his comments on the FW De Klerk debacle I think not.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Hey Ma-K,

    I got your point.

    But JR is still missing.

    Will you join our campaign to bring him back to South Africa from Australia (where other criminals have been warmly received and harboured with our MONEY)?

    Life is boring without JR!

    p.s. JR is not a known criminal – just a nice guy.

  • Ricky

    Ma-K, if you look at some of the most famous works of art from the Greek sculptures a few thousand years ago through the renaissance (agreed from Western culture, I am not very familiar with art from other parts of the world), they show naked persons, even great heros like Hercules. So I do not think there is anything disgraceful about that (of course, a pornographic picture featuring the President might be viewed differently – but the picture in question is not, in my view, pornographic).

  • http://chaos.co.za Marius Loots

    Streisand effect bites again.

  • Ma-K

    @Maggs…

    Hey…

    Life can’t be that boring, with such ‘art’ to ‘entertain’ you, life must be quiet a joy for you, hey, Maggs.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    khosi
    May 18, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Hey Khosi,

    “Look, personally I do not think that works of art should be censored.”

    You’re a work of art yourself. :P

    “Charlene Smith’s assertions on rape and African culture” is about as make-believe as it gets.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 9:16 am

    :lol:

  • Ma-K

    @Ricky

    We are not Greek or in anyway European, we don’t appreciate the same kind of art. As Africans, such Art is disrespectful to us. So a white man’s (not being racist,Greeks are white) art is a black man’s(Zuma is black) insult.

  • Ricky

    Ma-K, I find this fear of the naked body somewhat strange. At the traditional dances for the Swazi king, the women are hardly dressed, the bushman / San people wear only a little loin cloth, in many African cultures it is common to make statues of wood depicting naked men, even showing the private parts. So, it is not a uniquely European thing.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 9:21 am

    Hey Ma-K,

    “As Africans”.

    Sorry but you’re not allowed to say that.

    Dmwangi has been appointed the spokesperson of ALL AFRICANS, everywhere.

    Even the Pygmies, Egyptians, Somalians …

    He even speaks for dead people and future generations.

    God appointed him to do this – just like god, after a lot of SOUL searching, appointed our CJ as “the third most powerful man in South Africa”.

  • Michelld

    Censurship or Censorship?

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Ricky
    May 18, 2012 at 9:34 am

    But certainly the image was not intended as an artistic celebration of the naked human body. It was designed to denigrate the person of Jacob Zuma against the back ground of his sexuality and adherence to traditional Zulu value system as seen through the lens of Eurocentric cultural chauvinism. Then there is also the association of the image with socialism that carries a strong political message. The combination of the two themes i.e. African cultural backwardness and the populist tendency towards socialist rhetoric in Africa is not much different to the attitude of the Apartheid regime towards Africans.

  • Ma-K

    @Ricky…

    The African sculptures do not depict real people…Greek sculptures do…that’s why they differ so much. The african ones don’t portray anyone,so they are not insulting anyone. As for your example about the Swatis and Khoisan…they don’t show their private parts…And was this a painting of Helen Zille dressed like a Swati Maiden,would she think she was being honoured?Hell no!

  • Ricky

    Ma-K, to be honest I would not really care about a picture of Helen Zille as a Swazi maiden. I can understand that you can like or dislike the picture (and, as all art, it is rarely interesting if everyone has the same view) but the uproar, I do not really understand that.

    Ozoneblue, interesting interpretation of the picture. Maybe you are right. But I still think the ANC is making a mountain out of a molehill. Do you, by the way, think that ANC and/or the President should have any legal recourse against the picture?

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 9:51 am

    One wonders what the reaction would be if some left-wing artist produced a work showing Hellen Zille sucking off Capitalist America while she is being taken from the back by Zionist Israel with her twat fully exposed.

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    @ Ma-K

    “We are not Greek or in anyway European, we don’t appreciate the same kind of art”

    Ma-K is right. Our people prefer art that venerate their Leaders. Not filthy depictions that disrepeks them as PHALLOCRATS!

    Thanks.

  • Ricky

    Ozoneblue, do you really think that a picture showing a fully clothed Mr Zuma with his private parts exposed is similar to a picture of Mr Zille in a sexual act?

  • Letlotlo Malope

    Just because it is in the law doesn’t make it right.. Sure, you can express yourself but you should be bound by a principle of mutual respect and decency. I’m not refering to respecting Mr. Zuma as a leader but respecting him as a person and his right to dignity. Isn’t that, after all, what the fight against apartheid was about?

  • Sine

    This is utterly disrespectful!

    How can they make the esteemed member of President ZUMA, of all people, to be that small?!

    And this is very shoddy work from the so-called artists!

    How the hell can they leave out the shower?! If they want to be taken seriously as artists, they must give us a proper description of the President.

    Lastly, they were people here who questioned how our reactions would be if the pic had contained former Pres Nelson Mandela. I have this question for them; How the hell can you even mention the two men in the same sentence?! They are as different as night and day! And I mean very different. Next time you want to do a comparative analysis of the incumbent president, look more along the lines of Stalin, Lenin and Bush.

  • Barry

    South Africans should not be censored or prevented from expressing their own views of someone in artistic form. Views as radical as this one only come to light when the general view is overwhelmingly in favour. And that is also why the painting had very positive feedback from the exhibition.

  • Ma-K

    @Ricky

    The uproar is about the lack of respect the artist clearly has for the leader of this country. The fact that the artist is a South African white male, just shows how little South Africa has changed since the Apartheid era.

    @Sine

    Nelson Mandela,though he did a lot for this country and is a great man,he remains but a human being,with rights just like all humans,so,if you are to respect his rights,you should do so for all humans,including Zuma. Mandela was president of this country…the same seat Zuma is in…so if you find it offensive to put Mandela in such light,then,I think you fail to see Zuma for who he is;the PRESIDENT of South Africa.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Sine
    May 18, 2012 at 10:08 am

    “I have this question for them; How the hell can you even mention the two men in the same sentence?!”

    Because they are good friends, Zuma’s election was endorsed by Nelson Mandela, and they both sacrificed most of their adult lives as humble servants to the ANC in an internationality celebrated and acknowledged struggle against the pro-capitalist, vehemently anti-socialist, racist and anti-African doctrine of Apartheid.

  • Ma-K

    Thank you Ozoneblue.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Hey Ma-K,

    “if you are to respect his rights”.

    Sounds like Shakespeare with a twist.

    Some men are born respected, some inherit respect, some have respect thrust upon them.

    Doesn’t work too well.

    Respect is earned.

    Zuma came in with a lot of respect – 65.9% of South Africa.

    He’s voluntarily and willingly losing the respect accorded him and his office.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    I still don’t know what Zuma did to deserve so much hatred directed against him.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    ozoneblue
    May 18, 2012 at 10:26 am

    LOL OB,

    “they both sacrificed most of their adult lives as humble servants to the ANC in an internationality celebrated and acknowledged struggle against the pro-capitalist, vehemently anti-socialist, racist and anti-African doctrine of Apartheid.”

    So did Jackie Selebi, Alan Boesak, Terror Lekota and many others.

    Even Juju was in the struggle.

    Irene Grootboom died, homeless, forgotten – with the utmost disrespect shown to a human being, a South African, a mother, a grandmother, a woman.

    If South African politicians want respect they have to start earning it – not treating our people like SHIT!

    R800 million has been stolen by civil servants in the EC from their dept of health; that is the fucken outrage – not some painting of Zuma’s dick.

    Limopo Education had to be forced by a court to provide school books to school children; be outraged by that South Africa – Zuma’s ding-dong will still be hanging gently when these kids are ready for university.

  • Ma-K

    @Maggs

    Zuma is an elderly.It is not just in african culture to respect the elderly,but also in the bible. “Rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God. I am the LORD.” -Leviticus 19:32

    So,Zuma deserves your respect.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Hey Ma-K,

    “So,Zuma deserves your respect.”

    Only people who earn my respect deserve it.

    Zuma does not!

    ABZ = ANYONE BUT ZUMA!

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 18, 2012 at 10:39 am

    “Even Juju was in the struggle.”

    LOL. That must be the struggle to win tenders on the BEE gravy train, dodge the tax man and hold on to his ANC membership card at the same time.

  • Ma-K

    @Maggs

    Zuma is an elderly.It is not just in african culture to respect the elderly,but also in the bible. “Rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God. I am the LORD.” -Leviticus 19:32

    So,Zuma deserves your respect.

    Maggs…we do get appalled an express dismay for the things you mentioned above;R800 million missing and so forth…but this article and painting is not about that. Keep your eye on the ball Maggsie…you want to hear us rant and rave about how shameful it is the way some veterans were or are treated,write an article about that…Right now,focus on the topic at hand.

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    @ Ma-K

    “Rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God. I am the LORD.” -Leviticus 19:32

    M-K and Leviticus are both right.

    What is most admirable about Mr Zuma is that he is able to rise, not just in the presence of the aged, but also in the presence of the relatively young. Indeed, it is anathema to his culture not to rise to the occasion when a young women is desirous thereof.

    Thanks.

  • phesheya

    machine gun funk

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 18, 2012 at 10:49 am

    “Indeed, it is anathema to his culture not to rise to the occasion when a young women is desirous thereof.”

    In fact in my culture too. Thus the many well-known cures for impotence ranging from snake oil, rhino horn and enema to ecstasy, Viagra and psychotherapy.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Ma-K,

    You suggested that “elderly people” deserve respect because of their age.

    Then we should, according to that thinking, be respecting murderers, rapists, pedophiles, rhino horn smugglers, drug pushers, DM’s Idi Amin, architects of Rwanda’s genocide and the like just cos they are ‘elderly”!

    Respect must be earned.

    Zuma has lost the respect of many.

    Mandela has not.

    It’s because of their respective conduct.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 18, 2012 at 10:57 am

    “Respect must be earned. Zuma has lost the respect of many. Mandela has not. It’s because of their respective conduct.”

    Are you suggesting Cde Mandela was rendered impotent after Winnie?

  • Ma-K

    @Maggs

    Maggsie dear,please jog my memory,what did Zuma do,to loose your respect? And you are comparing him to hard criminals. Yet, if my memory serves me well, he was found ‘not guilty’ of rape…so…please do enlighten me…What monstrous thing did our president do to deserve such degradation?

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Ma-K,

    You’re diverting :P

    Should we respect people just because they are “elderly”?

  • Sine

    @Maggs

    Thanks for such a comprehensive response to Ozoneblue. I do not see myself replying to anyone who does not see the difference between Jacob Zuma and Nelson Mandela. Come on. Whats to argue there?!

    Lastly, Ma-K seems to be labouring from some dementia of some sort. Age has never been determinant in deciding who is deserving of respect or not. Secondly, Ma-K quotes the Bible as if the Bible has some authority over everyone in South Africa. How dumb! Ma-K must quote the Bible in church and prayer meetings not on CONSITUTIONALLYspeaking, where the supreme document is the Constitution and the other LAWS, not religious documents. Thirdly, the very same Bible that Ma-K quotes is the very same one which advocates for slavery. Interesting how no-one quotes that part about slaves having to obey their masters when people are quoting the Bible. Does ma-K advocate for the re-introduction of slavery in accordance with the Bible prescripts or is Ma-K advocating for a selective application of the Biblical provisions?

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 11:05 am

    “Maggsie dear,please jog my memory,what did Zuma do,to loose your respect?”

    Maggs don’t like him cause he reappointed Judge Willem the truth Heath – Mandela’s appointment to head the SIU. He even reappointed Mac Maharaj long time and dear Robben Island friend of Nelson Mandela. Then there is Zarina Maharaj who is still director of the Nelson Mandela Foundation that she apparently abuses to run some self-enrichment scam.

    Apparently consuming too many bunny chows is very bad for the long term memory and solid character judgement.

  • Ma-K

    Finally…Maggs speaks out of anger! I touched a nerve I see…and like I said…don’t get derailed Maggs…we are talking about RESPECT,not every South African problem. So,why wpould I wanna quote the entire bible?As for basing my points on the bible as if it’s the be all and end all…majority of south africans believe in the Lord’s word…maybe you don’t,bt most do. If I seem to be suffering from dementia just because I have respect,then,Maggsie… please get me admitted to a psychiatric hospital,cause I’d rather stick to my views and be called crazy,than believe it is right to depict our country’s president in such a disrespectful manner.

  • vulo

    @Sine You do hate Zuma with passion neh!!! Just do yourself a favour and do you own critical analysis why you hate him so much. While doing that take away emotions. You sometimes sound like a jilted lover.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 11:21 am

    LOL Ma-K!

    Not only are you talking nonsense, you cannot read correctly.

    That was Sne who wrote that comment (Sine – May 18, 2012 at 11:10 am).

    Maybe it’s best you get your facts right before making any more silly comments.

    It’s ok to make silly comments after getting the right facts – like Khosi often does.

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    Maggs, as far as I am concerned, you can take your disrespekful arrogance back to the teeming subcontinent of 3.7 billion peope from whence you came. The fact is that the ANC is the only party that can represent the aspirations of our people. I would support Mr Zuma again, in the same circumstance.

    Thanks.

  • karien

    Lessons in how the once-oppressed becomes exactly like its oppressor..

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 18, 2012 at 11:27 am

    LOL Dworky,

    “The fact is that the ANC is the only party that can represent the aspirations of our people. I would support Mr Zuma again, in the same circumstance.”

    On both counts, that’s me – guilty as charged.

    And unchanged!

    p.s. You mean 1.2+ billion COOLIES, don’t you!

  • Ma-K

    @Maggs

    Let me be the bigger man here and apologise for my error. I’m sorry. Its just that most of my comments have been directed to you…And the only thing nonsensical about that comment is that is was misdirected…but still,I repeat…

    @Sine

    The bible might not seem important to you,but it is to many…as for the slavery…slavery is still practiced today,it has just been changed to the term employment.But,that’s a topic for another day.The here and now…Respect…I’d rather be in a straitjacket and respecting my elders than support your views.

  • malome tom

    i think it’s racist. and it nicely encapsulates how many white south africans think not only about the president but about black men and sexuality. we still have a long long way to go on this. but the anc response is absurd, in the legal sense. i would be very interested in their heads of argument.

    it does raise an interesting point, if art serves, not to elucidate a point of view but rather reinforces stereotypes (race, homosexuality, gender etc) should our instinctive reaction be to celebrate it merely because it’s an exercise of a freedom of expression. saying that the artist is expressing his artistic freedom is trite. the critique from the likes of pierre and so on should go further. especially in a multi-cultural society such as ours. so im not sure that the distinction between the two points pierre makes above always holds. one will attach a greater sense of freedom of expression to an idea that accords with their respective sensibilities. and then make trite legal observations and arguments in defending that right.

  • Sine

    vulo says:
    May 18, 2012 at 11:25 am

    LOL. Nice one. Keep them coming. I voted him into power by voting ANC so no I dont hate him. I am very ANC to the core. However, that does not mean I am a blind follower of ANC. I have never been a fan of the Pres but what he is doing to the country is crazy. He is acting with utter disrespect yet we are called here to give respect to him. His behaviour, in the full view of the whole world, is worse than that of most first year varsity students. That is why I get ticked off when people compare him to former Pres Mandela. How can they?!

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Ma-K
    May 18, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Ma-K,

    Apology noted.

    But in itself, the apology does not make you a “bigger man” whatever that may mean.

    Respecting people just because they are elderly is nonsense.

    As is disrespecting younger people just because they are younger.

  • Henri

    What a low-key way of implying that the JSC, through the years and under the “leadership” of a succession of chief justices, were not complying with its constitutional mandate – :

    “In the end, the JSC is likely to be only as good as our collective willingness to put it under sufficient political pressure that it honours its constitutional obligations, rather than succumbing to a level of partisanship that is so deeply damaging as well as divisive. ”
    http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=171946

    I wonder what Chaskalson and Ngcobo think of this legacy of theirs – for what they would be remembered!

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 18, 2012 at 11:31 am

    “p.s. You mean 1.2+ billion COOLIES, don’t you!”

    Bulelani Ngcuka stands corrected then. He must get his vocabulary better aligned with his racial thinking.

    Cde Zuma surrounds himself with too many COOLIES then.

  • Sine

    Ma-K says:
    May 18, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Uyampola wena ngoku! I happen to be Christian actually. However, I understand that the Christian religion, with its “constitution” (the Bible), and other religions bow down to the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa. So stop quoting the Bible when stating a standard (of respect in this case) that must be followed by everyone, including those who do not subscribe to the Christian religion. You must quote a document which applies equally to everyone and which has the force of law. So far that document is the Constitution, not the Bible or Qur’an or any other religious document.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 18, 2012 at 11:44 am

    They say you age faster when you spend 10 years breaking up limestone with your bare hands.

  • Jama ka Sijadu

    What’s really new about this crap?
    It’s really just more of the usual white supremacist agenda to denigrate anything & anyone black / African, to strip us of all dignity & ensure that we are continually portrayed as they perceive us.

    Yet another example of the constituion (freedom of expression) being used as a cover for outright RACISM!

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Jama ka Sijadu
    May 18, 2012 at 11:58 am

    “It’s really just more of the usual white supremacist agenda”

    Thus the background is red and black and the pose is that of white supremacist Cde Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.

  • Woza

    Seems like this art is doing exactly what art is supposed to do–creating dialog about life. When a person becomes a politician, their personal life intersects with the life of the country and the people that they represent. History does make it important to consider how white people have constructed concepts of black sexuality, but isn’t the power relationship different here? J Z is a powerful man–the president of a country–he has a lot of leeway and agency to write his own story.

    With that in mind, isn’t it the responsibility of artists and the people to critique our leaders? If J Z’s decisions and actions raise questions, that’s politics that affect real people’s lives. If his actions and decisions are pure and blameless, then the last laugh will be on the artist who misinterpreted things. No painting has the power to control or represent a complete person. Art provides the opportunity to debate life with metaphor. Without that freedom, we resort to a culture of banning and making people and ideas invisible and illegal. Many of us can remember what life was like in a country like that.

    This art is not about J Z, it’s about us and about the culture and society we are creating together. It’s about how politics determine the choices for the least of us. If this image brings up issues that cut too close to the “bone,” that is its purpose–to ask us to see the bigger picture–a picture that is not only about J Z as an individual but as a representative of larger systems. Together we are constructing our ideas of race, class, gender and sexual orientation–and together we can use those constructions to help or hurt each other. In trying to reach democracy, no politician or person can be exempted from critique!

  • Jama kaSijadu

    @OB
    Did comrade Lenin have his c*ck out in that poster?

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Sine
    May 18, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Sne,

    When all else fails – try quoting a source of unknown origin.

    Any religion will do – we can even make up new ones.

    We can even quote voices in our heads (like our CJ does) :P

  • Thomas

    Woza: what is the critique in the painting?

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Jama kaSijadu
    May 18, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    JkS,

    “Did comrade Lenin have his c*ck out in that poster?”

    In his left hand!

    http://geopolicraticus.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lenin_poster.jpg.

  • Ma-K

    I wish it was Sat,so I could have the time to respond to your comments in as timely a manner as you post them

    @Sine

    As per your request; here is a quote from the constitution…

    Section 10 Human dignity

    “Everyone has inherent dignity and the right
    to have their dignity respected and
    protected.”

    Happy now?

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Jama kaSijadu
    May 18, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    “Did comrade Lenin have his c*ck out in that poster?”

    Race baiting and antisemitisim as part of anti-socialists propaganda is as old as Nazism itself.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

    And please do not forget Julias Malema revering to Cronin as the “White Messiah” and those “Yellow Communists” in a separate incident.

    http://mg.co.za/article/2009-12-15-malema-ancyl-to-fight-greedy-yellow-communists

  • Vuyo

    Yep, it definitely looks like Comrade Vavi.

  • Jama ka Sijadu

    More like “Everyone who is WHITE has inherent dignity and the right
    to have their dignity respected and protected.”

    If you are BLACK, you are on your own. Your dignity exists only in your imagination.

  • Jama ka Sijadu

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go! says:
    May 18, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    @Maggs: Usile wena!
    That looks like a pair of shoes.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Jama ka Sijadu
    May 18, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    We have also noted how the ANC is now aligned with that “White Supremacist” DA on the issue on the further exploitation of the working class.

  • Jama ka Sijadu

    OB I actually found myself sort of agreeing with what you said earlier;

    ozoneblue says:
    May 18, 2012 at 9:48 am

    “It was designed to denigrate the person of Jacob Zuma against the back ground of his sexuality and adherence to traditional Zulu value system as seen through the lens of Eurocentric cultural chauvinism. Then there is also the association of the image with socialism that carries a strong political message. The combination of the two themes i.e. African cultural backwardness and the populist tendency towards socialist rhetoric in Africa is not much different to the attitude of the Apartheid regime towards Africans.”

    But I dont know what kaka you are talking now with race baiting & anti semitism?

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    Jama is right.

    There in nothing novel in this so-called “art.” It is vile articulation of someone whose entire being has been suffused with a WHITIST virus!

    Many thanks.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Jama ka Sijadu
    May 18, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    JkS,

    “@Maggs: Usile wena!
    That looks like a pair of shoes.”

    Indeed – size 12s at that.

    Lenin – he was such a showoff!!!!

  • Vuyo

    I doubt the reaction would have been so open minded and praiseworthy, were the privates of Helen Zille or the Queen of England to be depicted by a young African artist. I suspect that words like objectifying, inappropriate, etc, would have come out.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Jama ka Sijadu
    May 18, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    JkS,

    “But I dont know what kaka you are talking now”

    Add a p.s. quickly that you don’t want to know either.

    You’ll be safer if OB does not try and explain.

  • Jama ka Sijadu

    ozoneblue says:
    May 18, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    IMHO the ANC aligned itself with *white supremacy* (does this term press your buttons?) way back in 1994 when it agreed to things like “the property clause”

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Jama ka Sijadu
    May 18, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    But I disagree that the intent and motivation of that poster is one of primarily innate “White Supremacy”. It is a political poster, and anti-socialists first of all. The “Rooi Gevaar” manifesting itself as the “Swart Gevaar” just as it manifested itself as Jewish stereotype propaganda in Nazi Germany.

  • Sine

    Ma-K says:
    May 18, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    I assume you have access to the Constitutional provisions from the fact that you managed to quote it above. Here is a few of mine:

    Sections 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, 16, 36 and 39.

    All the best with your analysis, especially when you consider that the person whose dignity is alleged to have been impugned in a politician, and a President at that. The President is subject to more public scrutiny than ordinary members of Parliament, let alone the public.

  • Jama ka Sijadu

    Sine says:
    May 18, 2012 at 13:06 pm

    “The President is subject to more public scrutiny than ordinary members…”

    Clearly!

  • Jama ka Sijadu

    ozoneblue says:
    May 18, 2012 at 13:02 pm

    We are actually in agreement for once, except that you don’t like to hear anyone (other than yourself) denigrating white people.

    White supremacy = Eurocentric cultural chauvinism
    & is also the source of swaart gevaar, not so?

    Here’s a nice CRT quote from your favourite source, Wikipedia:

    “The term white supremacy is used in academic studies of racial power to denote a system of structural racism which privileges white people over others, regardless of the presence or absence of racial hatred. Legal scholar Frances Lee Ansley explains this definition as follows:

    By “white supremacy” I do not mean to allude only to the self-conscious racism of white supremacist hate groups. I refer instead to a political, economic and cultural system in which whites overwhelmingly control power and material resources, conscious and unconscious ideas of white superiority and entitlement are widespread, and relations of white dominance and non-white subordination are daily re-enacted across a broad array of institutions and social settings.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy

  • Gwebecimele

    This is not different from the noise we make everytime some white person mentions the word kaffir. It is “NOISE” and it will remain just that. The poor blacks are on the receiving end of this behaviour daily in their work places, homes, schools, hospitals and from merchants.

    Rather than focussing on individual events let us just put an end to this.
    Go read Sobukwe and Biko.

  • Jon

    Ag ANC he is an african president, they all walk around with their cocks out like that.. get use to it :-) haha

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za ozoneblue

    @jama

    I have rejected CRT a couple of times now as a load of pseudo-scientific, reactionary, racist bullshit. What is it about that that you don’t understand?

  • Alyn

    Viva, mthondo we sizwe, viva!

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Hey Khosi,

    You’re famous!

    it is the stereotype of the black man and the uncontrollable appetite, they [KHOSI] will wail.

    http://www.citypress.co.za/Columnists/The-spear-of-the-nation-stays-up-20120518

  • John Roberts

    Seems to me that African culture means giving someone respect and dignity even if he’s a useless, sinister whoremongering cunt who’s dragged the country into the gutter.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    John Roberts
    May 18, 2012 at 15:46 pm

    Are you referring to BJ Vorster or PW Botha? You need to remember that both of those two should be judged in the context of a global Cold War aimed at frustrating a worldwide Socialist revolution.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    John Roberts
    May 18, 2012 at 15:46 pm

    Hey JR,

    Welcome back.

    Hallelujah. Praise the LORD. Our prayers have been answered.

    Don’t knock our President when he’s, er, down – he’s, er, a bit exposed these days.

    p.s. Now we all know “what is a crook”. And in technicolour too.

  • Dr Reasonable

    We need our sensitivities challenged as such. I am just curious about one particular aspect; will the majority of the Constitutional Court’s view in Le Roux v Dey be applicable in this case(re: is the reasonable person a homophobic prude?).

    Any non-racial and reasoned responses are welcome.
    Those who use this comment thread as a breeding ground to spread their warped prejudicial ‘views’ are exactly the sexually repressed people the Beat Generation wrote about; please do not respond.

    I thank you.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 18, 2012 at 16:14 pm

    “Welcome back. Hallelujah. Praise the LORD. Our prayers have been answered.”

    It seems to me you have a suppressed craving for useless cunt?

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Much as I thought. Zuma is hated by some (including PdV) for his African cultural identity. However that is the smokescreen. Had Zuma been business-friendly, with fewer “left-leaning allies” he would have been welcomed with open arms as a African traditionalist whose cultural views demand respect. As with Nelson Mandela who never denounced his Xhosa identity: http://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/article_pics/nelson_mandela.jpg

    “But mostly, I will not have my colleagues take down that image because the march away from progressive politics to patriarchal conservatism is everywhere. It is there in the Traditional Courts Bill, which seeks to return rural women to servitude; it is there in a governing party MP, who seeks to strip gay people of their right to love; it is there in the draft Protection of State Information Act, which seeks to pull a securocrat’s dragnet over the free flow of news and information. It is there in the march of polygamy; there in the push-back on quotas for women politicians and there in the people who want art pulled down because they do not like its message.”

    http://www.citypress.co.za/Columnists/The-spear-of-the-nation-stays-up-20120518

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    ozoneblue
    May 18, 2012 at 16:34 pm

    Hey OB,

    If you mean JR, you’re just jealous cos he’s Constitutionally Speaking’s most wanted!

    There’s even a Friend’s-of-JR Fund (FOJRF) going.

    Will you donate generously???

  • Pierre De Vos

    Just a small reminder that I have been pretty consistent about this topic. See my criticism of the majority judgment of Le Rourx v Dey, where a (white) deputy headmaster sued schoolchildren for defamation for superimposing his head on that of a man having sex with another man: http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/is-the-reasonable-person-a-homophobic-prude/

    The difference between that case an this one is obvious: (a) Zuma is a public figure and hence not entitled to the same degree of protection as a private citizen and (b) this is a work of art (whether it is good art is beside the point).

    Many years ago then apartheid State President PW Botha wanted a book banned because one of the characters in the book referred to him as a :”Meidenaaier” and a newspaper withdrew a major literary prize to the author because the President was upset about this (he had conflated the work of art with real life, just as the ANC is doing now). I thought PW Botha’s reaction then was utterly ridiculous (and stated so loudly) as I think that the ANC response now is deeply reactionarty and ridiculous. Why not have a real debate about whether the work of art was good or bad and whether it said something interesting or was rather boring as it was not very challenging? Or argue about whether the artist had a moral duty not to make fun of the President? That would be cool. But insisting on censoring the work of art is reactionary, lacking in respect for artistic creativity and unacceptable in a constitutional democracy. Finish and klaar. No one has a right not to have their dignity affacted by a work of art.

  • sirjay jonson

    I’ve listened today to CapeTalk, read many articles and comments on line with respect to the ‘Spear’ of our questionably honorable president.

    What has been made clear is that Murray is an artistic activist. He hates, as do many folk, all the ongoing damage the present ANC has thrust upon us, attempting to without realizing to crush our Democracy (and I don’t believe JZ has any idea what is impact is) on South Africa. What we could be… amazing… if only we had the leaders.

    The painting of JZ and his ‘spear’ needs to be taken into consideration….with the various other paintings which the gallery is displaying under their artist of the day, Murray. Which is, an angry response to the present ANC state of mind.

    I am not offended by this painting. And I’m not sure, to be honest, that I would mind a portrait of myself with my manhood exposed. In some ways if JZ was clear, and does he have such moments… and knowing that like all males we love our manhood (symbol, right).

    I say congrats to Murray. Protest art is as vital to freedom and true Democracy as any other venue of the media or element of free speach. And finally, if JZ can’t take the heat, time to get out of the kitchen.

  • Dr Reasonable

    Thank you Professor. Looking forward to your next post.

  • Sefako Mokolo

    De Vos what are you insunuating about Christian Morals with this statement “There is no place in our democracy for this kind of Christian Nationalist-like moral outrage and the concomitant attempts at censorship of artistic expression”

    Are you implying Christians are the type of people that would get unreasonable outraged. I find a statement like this about a group of people worse coming from a constitutional expert who is supposed to respect the rights of people very disturbing and insulting to Christian. I would like you to withdraw that comment and apologise to Christians on both your blog and all media publications where this statement was published. Your reference and use of Christians as people who emotionally outburst for misplaced morals it really goes against the constitution of this country.

  • Sefako Mokolo

    Really de Vos for a constitutional expert to be promoting stereotype on religious basis is uncalled for.

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    With respect, Pierre, you comparison of Mr Zuma with PW is implausible. The absence of democratic avenues for resistance then made alternative lines of attack — including any kind of ridicule, satire, and even defamation, other words, the cultural struggle, justifiable or even obligatory By contrast, SA under Zuma is a democracy. As one vested with the legitimacy thereof, Mr Zuma has a better claim to respect than any Nat leader.

    Thanks.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 18, 2012 at 21:20 pm

    You start to catch my drift.

    That traditional Apartheid Stellenbosch/Ivy League education shining through.

  • Michael Osborne

    Pierre, I think you cannot properly accuse the ANC of “censorship”‘ or even attempted censorship. As a political party, it is quite entitled to protest what it deems to be an offensive depiction of its leader. Even overwrought objection rises to the level of “censorship” only when it is accompanied by use of governmental power, or perhaps monopolistic market power. You trivialize the charge of censorship by applying to anything less than that. (I voiced a similar objection to what I saw as an equally hyperbolic charge a while back, to the effect that the DA’s decision to cut a Sowetan writer from its mailing list constituted censorship.). A bridge too far.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    ozoneblue
    May 18, 2012 at 21:34 pm

    Well done OB,

    “You start to catch my drift.”

    Dworky is young, he has a lot to learn – and he is learning well under your guidance.

    From now on you are appointed his political mentor.

    But don’t let us down like Tony Yengeni did with Juju!

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Sefako Mokolo
    May 18, 2012 at 21:15 pm

    Hey Sefako,

    “I would like you to withdraw that comment and apologise to Christians on both your blog and all media publications where this statement was published.”

    Well done – that should put the fear of the devil into de Vos.

    You should think of teaming up with OB, Dmwangi and Zdenek.

    de Vos will think long and hard before insulting Christians with that team on the look out.

    We could call the four of you “Unfriends of de Vos” (UodV) – and start a fund.

    Will you donate generously?

  • david robert lewis

    Dignity implies restraint, but the only restraints on freedom of speech in the constitution are with regard to hate speech and incitement to violence.

    The combative tone of our nation’s leadership speak to a culture of moral conservatism reminiscent of the past regime, in particular PW Botha and J B Vorster.

    One can only hope that good sense will prevail and better leadership will emerge, one that is not so quick upbraid its citizenry, castigating our nations artists for doing what they do best in the process drawing the national debate into cultural debates that have no purpose other than to scare us all into self-censorship.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 18, 2012 at 21:43 pm

    “We could call the four of you “Unfriends of de Vos” (UodV) – and start a fund.”

    LOL. You never want to “unfriend” me boet cause I’m programmed like a psychotic malfunctioning robot by my superior RWHM virus to rule the world.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Michael Osborne
    May 18, 2012 at 21:34 pm

    Of all the regular posters here I appreciate your opinion the most.

  • Gerald Fleming

    You know it is almost a schlong. He should be proud of it. Overstated perhaps but flattering nevertheless.

  • Mike Ambassador
  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    ozoneblue
    May 18, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Hey OB,

    “Maggs don’t like him cause he reappointed Judge Willem the truth Heath”

    Did I ever say that I don’t like Zuma????

    To set the record straight – I like and think very fondly of Zuma. He has been, in many ways, an exemplary human being – I’ll skip the details for now.

    Set that apart from what I think about the way he is leading our country.

    His leadership is awful and many of his decisions are outrageous which will cause long term harm to our country.

    We are making progress as a nation on many fronts despite, not because of, Zuma.

  • John Roberts

    Ozone Blue

    Just so we’re clear … I have no respect for PW or BJ either …. they were useless cunts as well

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    John Roberts
    May 19, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Hey JR,

    What’s happening in Manley?

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 19, 2012 at 9:04 am

    I disagree and I believe Cde Zuma is doing a excellent job.

    However the full frontal onslaught on him seem to revolve (in part) on his “social conservatism”. A view put forward by very whitish liberals who cannot sort their head from their arse. We live in Africa ffs, we may have the most advanced Constitution in the world just as we have one of the highest crime rates, one of the highest murder rates and one of the highest rape rates. We have one of the highest HIV infection rates in Africa. We still have a fair amount of people who believe in witchcraft and mob justice. We also have a population that are 80% Christian.

    Look at the case PdV roles out to substantiate his “consistency”.

    “that such a person might well have concluded that the images were not defamatory because they did not in fact lower the esteem of the headmaster and deputy headmaster in the eyes of any reasonable person.”

    Kids publishing homoerotic imagery of their authority figures? How is this conducive to maintaining discipline and a culture of respect and learning. We have the bizarre situation where teachers have to resort to the courts now to deal with this?

    I say BULLSHIT. Given the circumstances we need a much stronger, “socially conservative” and disciplinary approach. If these gay, whitish Eurocentric liberals whose constant whining is part of this decadent destruction of the evil disciplinary “patriarchal society” want to emigrate to Disneyland or Europe, they are free and welcome to so. Perhaps our problem is that we have too much “freedom” and “democracy” that is good for us given where we are and where we come from.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    If ever my boys are caught publishing humiliating erotic imagery of their school teachers/parental figures on the Internet or elsewhere, they will receive a good fucking old fashioned boere hiding from me. And they very well know that.

    Court case closed – FINISH and KLAAR. No sue me.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    ozoneblue
    May 19, 2012 at 9:52 am

    OB,

    You’re confusing and conflating many different issues.

    Our President derives his mandate from the ANC and is expected to roll out the programmes per the ANC election manifesto in accordance with our country’s Constitution.

    You must be aware that the ANC policies which derive from the ANC Policy Conference is a long an arduous process which is the culmination of years of submissions, discussions, debates – it’s the consequence of input from a wide array of people and organisations.

    President Zuma is not and cannot be expected to do all that is required by himself. He is expected to lead the ANC and the country to achieve what has been set out for his current five year term so that the ANC can govern per the mandate given to it by the people o South Africa.

    He is far to surrounded in controversy, bad decisions, bad choices and disgraceful actions to be doing even reasonably well what the people of South Africa have voted the ANC into power to do.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 19, 2012 at 10:17 am

    I beg to disagree. ALL the issues that where raised under Mbeki – crime, AIDS policy, Zimbabwe where addressed under Zuma. South Africa survived and did relatively well economically under the pressure of a worldwide financial meltdown. Zuma is the first new SA prez who fired a minister/s for being incompetent/corrupt. Zuma is the first prez to take over a province’s woefully incompetent/corrupt local government. Zuma is the first ANC prez in modern history to suspend an ill-disciplined and disruptive ANC cadre. Zuma is the first prez to allow us to come up with some vision of where we should be heading i.e. the developmental state.

    I can carry on and on but I don’t have the time for that now. The worse thing that can happen to SA right now is that Zuma is not given a fair chance to complete the excellent work that began under his leadership.

  • jawellnofine

    Its GREAT to know that in this day and age, art still has the power to stir an entire nation into debate !

    I live in Asia, where ‘Art’ is nothing but pretty pictures, and usually its either of a religious figure, a revered monarch or pretty flowers. Art as social commentary is only allowed if it is is ‘moral’ or ‘respectful’. In other words self-censored drivel.

    A few years back a cartoonish artwork depicting the mighty USA sodomising the world was removed from an exibition by a famous university up north, because it was deemed ‘ impolite’ and ‘offensive’

    So now artists are back to painting pretty pictures and pretending everything remains hunky dory in virtuous cloud coo-coo land.

    I applaud the idea that in modern society (note I did not say Western) artists have the freedom to depict whatever they please, however they please. Whether you, me or Ma-K think it is ‘disrespectful, vulgar, insulting or in bad taste, is entirely besides the point.

    We live in the 21st century and with so much political correctness and extreme cultural hyper sensitivity , Art is one of the few arenas where holy cows can effectively be slaughtered, with one fatal blow. And I love it when it leaves a nice big mess on the floor like this has. Now if we could just get Jacob and the ANC to stop peeing all over it, maybe we could move on…

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    ozoneblue
    May 19, 2012 at 11:08 am

    OB,

    You’re comparing Mbeki with Zuma – Mbeki was fired, remember. And that was largely because the ANC were not happy with the way he rolled out the ANC policies. All credit to Zuma for standing against Mbeki – our country would have been turned into a mad dictatorship is Mbeki was allowed to be President-for-Life.

    None of what you raise is a consequence of Zuma but of the ANC itself. The developmental state has been an ANC policy for as long as I can remember – it’s not Zuma who thought it up and implemented all by his lonesome.

    On his exercising of the prerogatives accorded to the President of the Republic, his choices have been more often than not, tardy if not downright disastrous.

    Between bonking wherever and whenever he can, allowing the stretching of the law to suit people who ought never to be placed in positions of authority and other “Presidential misdemeanours” Zuma is far from leading the world’s oldest liberation movement and country to the glory that both can be.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!
    May 19, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Oh _ I see. All credits should go to the ANC – and Zuma should be blamed for all that is wrong. Can’t argue about that then. As if the ANC collective didn’t elect him to be prez. With such selective collective versus personal accountability. One wonders then why we never heard about developmental state or resource nationalism during Mbeki’s era, with both of those concepts being thought out by the ANC collective such a long time ago. Or one has to wonder what Cosatu was on about in 1999/2000 when the RDP was scrapped in favour of GEAR: was that now Mbeki or the ANC?

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    OzoneBlue/Maggs

    You two are engaged in a futile, diversionary squabble.

    With respect, I say it is BOTH the ANC and President Zuma whom we have to thank for bringing South Africa to where we are today Without the solid institutional wisdom, grass-roots structures, and tens of thousands of dedicated cadres, of the ANC, Mr Zuma could not have achieved half of what he has. But without his political genius, shrewd sense of judgment and character, and unsurpassed grasp of complex policy issues, the ANC would be a rudderless ship!

    Thanks.

  • Maggs Naidu – maggsnaidu@hotmail.com

    Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 19, 2012 at 15:28 pm

    Dwokry!!!!!!

    “the ANC would be a rudderless ship”

    Behave yourself.

    This is a family blog.

    Talking about Zuma’s “rudder” may bring the ANC’s wrath upon you!

  • Brett Nortje

    Eish! Is this how you people ‘argue’, Maggs? Below the belt?

    Vrou byt man se penis af tydens rusie
    2012-05-18 23:00

    Colombo – ‘n Dertigjarige man van Sri Lanka sal ‘n operasie ondergaan nadat sy vrou Vrydag sy penis afgebyt het tydens ‘n rusie, het ‘n dokter gesê.

    Die man, wat as Chandana Pradeep geïdentifiseer is, is na ‘n plattelandse hospitaal in Andapan, 180 km suid van Colombo, gehaas nadat die bakleiery tussen hom en sy vrou gewelddadig geword het.

    “Omtrent driekwart van sy penis is afgebyt,” het ‘n dokter, wat anoniem wou bly, aan AFP gesê.

    “Ons het die bloeding gestop en het hom na ‘n uroloog in Karapitya [‘n groter dorp daar naby] gestuur om te kyk of die afgebyte deel weer aangeheg kan word.”

    ‘n Polisiebeampte in die suidelike dorp Hakmana sê Pradeep en sy vrou het baklei nadat sy geweier het om vir hom geld vir alkohol te gee.

    “Ons weet van die voorval, maar ons het nie ‘n formele klagte ontvang nie,” het die beampte gesê.

  • Maggs Naidu – maggsnaidu@hotmail.com

    Nude Stephen Harper painting causes a stir

    It’s Stephen Harper as you’ve never seen him before. A Kingston artist has painted a cheeky portrait of the prime minister reclining in all his glory.

    http://www.thestar.com/videozone/1181011–nude-stephen-harper-painting-causes-a-stir#.T7enz9Uw_PY.facebook

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    @ Khosi, I agree with you 1000% that the nudish painting of the President is RACIST.

    Strangely enough, though, other “heads” of state have also been depicted nude from time to time. See, for example, the nude depiction of George Bush referred to below, and the nude depiction of the Ontario PM mentioned by Maggs.

    I wonder if these were the works of BLACK artists who were anti-white racists?

    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/09/1097261839859.html

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 19, 2012 at 17:31 pm

    Dworky,

    Interesting link.

    “The exhibit wasn’t completely mounted

    Does it mean they were expecting one of Bill Clinton?

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 19, 2012 at 17:31 pm

    Yep. But The “Bush nude art” seems subtle and camp. Much like the Nazi gay festival.

    still I STRUGGLE to find an example of political satire paintings of Heads of State who are so explicit, well endowed, and to expose the member so brutally and vulgarly as an African SCHLONG.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    I think that it is high time to construct a new Critical Bullshit Theory. How Jewish White Gay Supremacy has been controlling the world.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue
  • Sefako Mokolo

    Brett Murray – An artist that takes other artists work & present as his own without acknowledging the original artists.

    http://africasacountry.com/2011/06/10/not-in-my-name/

    An to add salt to wound an expert and an academic defend such practice. I graduated from the very institution de Vos imparts knowledge on students.

    Question is does UCT promote taking people work and using as your own without acknacknowledging source. Would he allow such practice from his students. Cases are public knowledge but try copy a number of paragraph from say “Sedumo” a well known case and presenting as your own.

  • Sefako Mokolo

    By the way Brett Murray has Masters from UCT. As UCT graduate I am not proud to be associated with any graduate from UCT who sees fit to take other people work and present as their own.

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    There were two acts of counter-revolutionary terrorism in Johannesburg last week. The first was the DA thugs’ bloody attack on workers in the streets. The second was the white UCT graduate’s savage assault upon the flaccid phallus of Mr Zuma. How can we see these as anything but terrifying manifestations of reactionary push back against the gains of the struggle? Clearly, we cannot afford to be complacent.

    Thanks a lot.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    Sefako Mokolo
    May 20, 2012 at 2:13 am

    “Murray’s distortion of iconic images invokes outrage, but does not actually pinpoint the problem of corrupt politicians facing us today. Ultimately it counts as a cheap shot – a lazy route to audience reaction. It does not help us find a way forward. Moreover, it feeds tired old stereotypes pushed by the counter-revolution – that our national liberation struggle was no more than a fight to change one group of greedy and self-seeking rulers for another”

    I have to agree with that. The insatiable greed and corruption that plagues us today is simply a sign of the times and an almost universal phenomenon now. It signifies the decadence, the triumph of self-interest, the ego and the capitalist value system over the interest of the community and of the collective as presented by the political-economical philosophy of socialism until circa 1990 and before the negative revolution.

    This is what makes the use of socialist colours in the depiction of cde Zuma so subversive and profoundly reactionary. Because we all know that during the last 20 years it has not been socialism, but rather rampant capitalism in the guise of neoliberal deregulation, privatisation and BEE that has entrenched Economic Apartheid.

  • http://www.ozoneblue.co.za/ ozoneblue

    What is troubling though, the artist here – Brett Murray seems totally oblivious to the irony and contradiction in that reactionary work. Brett Murray who received a class privileged education from the elite UCT sponsored by Harry Oppenheimer yet he sees himself as the victim, not a collaborator, then he sells his painting at a handsome profit to a foreign German art collector who is probably going to hang on his gold-plated bathroom door next to a picture of his French poodle.

  • Brett Nortje

    Does Zuma get this artwork? Does he view it as a cry from the heart of the people he is supposed to lead who see that despite the 21st century paraphernalia he is more caught up in governing his kraal than governing his country, that we know what he is preoccupied with, and where his priorities lay? Does he see that he has been laid bare before the nation, that there is nothing he can cover up nor hide from us?

    Don’t think so!

    http://www.rapport.co.za/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Ek-is-verneder-20120519

    ‘Ek is verneder’
    2012-05-19 23:43
    Verslagspan
    Pres. Jacob Zuma is “geskok”, voel “persoonlik gekrenk” en meen hy is “onteer” deur ’n skildery wat wys hoe hy hom ontbloot.

    Die kunstenaar Brett Murray se kunswerk The Spear beeld hom uit as ’n “rokjagter en iemand sonder enige respek”, het ’n verontwaardigde Zuma gister op dié omstrede kunswerk gereageer.

    Die ANC neem die Johannesburgse Goodman-galery hof toe om te eis dat die kunswerk, ’n uitbeelding van Zuma met sy geslagsdele wat by sy gulp uithang, nie meer uitgestal word nie.

    Zuma sê hy is verstom dat iemand ’n kunswerk kan uitstal wat sinspeel dat hy seksbelustig en promisku is.

    Boonop het die ANC nou ook ’n saak aanhangig gemaak teen City Press, susterkoerant van Rapport, wat verlede Sondag ook dié kunswerk op sy bladsye vertoon het.

    Die skildery sal Zuma se waardigheid knou “in die oë van almal wat dit sien”, sê Zuma in ’n verklaring wat as deel van die hofaansoek ingedien is.

    Hy is spyt dat die uitbeelding nou al deur “miljoene binne en buite die land” gesien is.

    Selfs al word dit verwyder, “sal dit voortbestaan in die gedagtes van almal wat dit gesien het”.

    Tog meen hy as die kunswerk nou verwyder word, sal dit die skade beperk.

    “Net diere loop kaal rond, nie mense nie,” skryf Gugu Zuma namens die Zuma-kinders, “en dié uitbeelding maak dit duidelik dat die kunstenaar en sy ondersteuners nie net die president nie, maar alle swart mense as diere sien. Die skildery is die laaste strooi. Dit sinspeel dat ’n swart man wat met tradisionele Afrika-kultuur en -tradisies geassosieer word … minder mens is as die volgende persoon.”

    Hulle ken Zuma nie as die man op dié ongeskikte uitbeelding nie, sê die kinders, maar eerder as ’n man wat sy gesin met “hoop, deernis en liefde” lei.

    Die Goodman-galery hou vol dit is sy reg om die kunswerk te vertoon en weier om dit te verwyder.

    Kunskenners sien die skildery as kritiek op Zuma se losbandige leefstyl (hy is berug om sy affairs en buite-egtelike kinders), asook die patriar­gale denkwyse wat sy gedrag teenoor vroue dikwels kenmerk.

    Talle ander ANC-hoëlui het ook teen die kunswerk uitgevaar.

    Jeff Radebe, minister van justisie, sê dit moet verbied word.

    Hy meen Zuma moet ’n saak van crimen injuria teen die kunstenaar aanhangig maak.

    Paul Mashatile, minister van kuns en kultuur, sê hoewel die regering in kunstenaars se reg op vrye uitdrukking glo, is dit verkeerd as mense hul medelandsburgers verontmenslik.

    Ook die ANC-vroueliga het in ’n verklaring gesê die skildery is ’n belediging vir alle Suid-Afrikaners “wat moes aanskou hoe hul president op ’n seksuele wyse uitgebeeld word”.

    Zuma en die ANC se regsverteenwoordigers sal Dinsdag in die hooggeregshof in Johannesburg hul saak teen die kunswerk stel.

    Murray is ’n gesiene Kaapse kuns­tenaar wat al sedert die 1980’s bekend is om sy protes-kuns waarmee hy telkens die regering van die dag kritiseer.

    In 1989 het hy die eerste keer grootskaalse kritiek met sy werk ontlok toe hy in Johannesburg se Mark-teater ’n besonder negatiewe uitbeelding van die NP-regering en destydse weermag uitgestal het.

    Regse groepe het toe gedreig om die uitstalling te ontwrig.

    In die laaste jare het hy in sy kuns veral daarop gefokus om die ANC-regering by te kom.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    While Zuma is hanging out in a art gallery …

    Bladdy agents –

    The Sunday Times can today reveal that crime-intelligence officials duped a judge into allowing them to illegally eavesdrop on cellphone calls made by suspended national police commissioner Bheki Cele – and this newspaper’s journalists.

    http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/2012/05/19/bugging-how-cops-lied

  • Miikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    @ OzoneB

    “Brett Murray seems totally oblivious to the irony and contradiction in that reactionary work. Brett Murray who received a class privileged education from the elite UCT sponsored by Harry Oppenheimer yet he sees himself as the victim”

    OB, you are right to detect such irony in the work. But this plays off yet another irony: that a leader who sells himself and his party as the champion of the victims of racial/capitalist exploitation (hence the socialist colouration and mock-heroic pose), himself presides over, and has rendered himself and his family the rich beneficiary of, the very structures that the artist’s forefathers established in this country.

    One could go further, and detect in the President’s member Lacan’s famous transcendental signifier. But maybe not.

  • Sefako Mokolo

    What people are missing is nobody is defending the action of the current government. And its not only about JZ hanging assets. But his array of art is distasteful and vile. Insulting to our forefathers, grandmothers, our parents and ourselves.

    The ANC leadership is non-existent if anything. Transformation in society has regressed under his leadership. Service delivery has turned to self service. I was in gov during intervention in EC & my frnds tell me whats happening in Limpopo makes that look like practice session meanwhile u have hospitals without medicine & facilities.

    At core is the manner Murray raises the issue. He insult every black person who ever participated in struggle. Thats why he even get negative reaction even sm ABZ cause they find his art vile, disrespectful & insulting to every BLACK person.

    Let me put it this way even when ANC was fighting with IFP drawing any of the leaders pvt parts would have nullified any chances of agreement & ending war.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Sefako Mokolo
    May 20, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Hey SM,

    You say “(h)e insult every black person who ever participated in struggle”.

    It’s a caricature of the way Zuma has conducted himself, the things he did and does and the things he said and says.

    It’s not, in my view, even “art” but a copy and paste from elsewhere as is a lot of the painter’s work.

    Unless there is a clear connection it, is nonsense to extrapolate the perceptions to race, gender, religion or any other generic basis which comes to mind.

    The thing I find really offensive and ugly about this issue is Ferial Haffajee’s remark in the City Press, where she says among other things :

    The man driving this latest nail into the ANC’s commitment to free expression is Jackson Mthembu, who was recently arrested for drunk driving at 7am on a busy highway.

    http://www.citypress.co.za/Columnists/The-spear-of-the-nation-stays-up-20120518

    Perhaps someone from the City Press will explain what the fuck Mthembu’s previous escapade with the law on a completely unrelated matter (for which he apologised and was dealt with anyway) has to do with his right to raise the concerns (valid or not) of the ANC.

    Haffajee, in my opinion, had behaved as badly as (maybe worse than) the ANC with the schoolyard bully tactic – “you challenge us, we’ll dig up all dirty about you”.

    It’s vile!

  • Marius

    I am proud to live in an African democracy where freedom of expression is tolerated. This painting is doing much to break down the stereotype of African intolerance and authorotarianism. Far from harming our image, it is enhancing it as a progressive, liberal democracy. We have to take sides in matters such as these based on the bigger picture (no pun). What would it say about our values if someone went into the gallery and brutally defaced the painting? I’m afraid some of the rhetoric around this issue might lead to exactly that.

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    @ Maggs

    “is nonsense to extrapolate the perceptions to race, gender, religion or any other generic basis which comes to mind.”

    Maggs, with respect, you are abstracting away from context, much a formalist liberal would. The black man’s (lenghty) penis has long been associated in RACIST discourse with indigenous savagery and sexual profligacy. Whitist anxieties about miscegenation and defilement of European maidens’ blood are hardluy novel. See E.M. Foster’s ‘Passage to India’ and J.M. Coezee’s ‘Disgrace.’

  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    much a = much as
    hardluy = hardly

    Thanks.

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    Miikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 20, 2012 at 10:02 am

    “But this plays off yet another irony: that a leader who sells himself and his party as the champion of the victims of racial/capitalist exploitation (hence the socialist colouration and mock-heroic pose),”

    That view just reinforces then a common [whitish] perception that socialism is racialist in nature – especially in the colonial African context. This is also apparent in the Apartheid conflagration of the “Swart gevaar” and the “Rooi gevaar” being mutually inclusive and common enemy of the pro-capitalist Apartheid state. The same ideological dichotomy can be seen in the [mostly] African nationalist response to Apartheid with its distinctly racially tainted Leninism. In both cases the underlying assumption seems to be that race and class oppression is inherently the same thing, and once Apartheid and racial oppression has been defeated the impoverished and exploited African masses would be liberated and their living conditions will improve.

    But we know that is a false assumption. An deliberately so. It is just a new strategy for the capitalist class to survive and flourish in a post-colonial world.

    We have seen this all over Africa, from Nigeria to Angola. We witnessed it first-hand in Zimbabwe. Capitalism knows no colour – it simply manipulates natural racist/xenophobic/ethnic chauvinist attitudes and currents embedded in any given society to manipulate in order to defend its own interest. Just as we have seen how during the past 20 years BEE has been used as a vehicle to assimilate the disenfranchised into the ruling capitalist class. And just as we have witnessed the seemingly unthinkable “black-on-black” violence during the recent DA march on Cosatu. As I said the capitalist interests inside the white minority and ruling black majority converging. Nowhere is this more obvious or apparent.

    And the response to all of the above stay similar and predictable – those assimilated black beneficiaries in the capitalist class, may of who comment on blogs like this one, then reinforce the “colonial victimhood” mentality through ever intensified racial scapegoating and diversionary tactics. The author of this blog feeds that sentiment with corroboration reactionary theories like CRT. The blame it on “racism” and the “white man” syndrome but without acknowledging or ever accepting responsibility for their own collaboration. The class exploitation is never addressed, since it is not in the ruling elites interest. “Race” remains the red herring just as the USA, Africa and elsewhere.

    The above satirical painting however suggest that it is the socialist sympathies of the likes of Jacob Zuma and company that are to blame for the status quo. It cannot be further form the truth, but says a lot about the condescending Apartheid mentality towards Africans still embedded in the artist’s thinking.

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder
    May 20, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    hehehehe!

    A few people are trying to climb on the bandwagon with claims of “what about me???”

    Maybe when they get famous they too can have have their most valuable assets painted.

    Until then this is about the way Zuma has portrayed himself.

    Others must stop staking their claim to fame unless they can show equal prowess.

    Here they were, defending a man who probably did not mind having his vital articles displayed before the world. This is a man who has made a virtue of flaunting his sexual prowess. He has declared before the world that his culture entitles him to have as many women warm his bed as he likes. Well, at least that is his version of his culture.

    Every February, on the most important day of the political calendar, he arrives at parliament with his fulsome bevy. In Kenny Kunene-style, he walks the red carpet flanked by them. Grinning and waving to the public, his statement is: “Look what I got, my peeps!”

    On foreign trips, he swaps them so that the whole world can see what a stud he is.

    This is a head of state who was not shy to declare before a global audience: “I love all my wives equally.”

    This head of state of a modern country made a very romantic speech at his latest wedding, telling his newest wife that she would not be his last. “Do not close the door behind you,” he publicly told her on the night of the nuptials. How sweet.

    This is a man who, in his life, has married six women and sired more than 20 children. He will probably take more wives and produce more offspring before the end of his spell in office.

    As South Africans, let us accept that we have a very sexual president. The man at the helm of the republic unzips a lot and is proud of it. The ANC chose him as their president in 2007 knowing this fact, and imposed him on the country as a presidential candidate, fully aware that they were giving us a rampant stallion.

    His sexual endeavours are therefore fair game for artists, cartoonists, comedians, radio DJs and tavern jokers.

    For as long as we have Jacob Zuma in office, his salacious side will matter more than his contribution to governance. When he has moved on, it will be his sexual legacy that we will remember more than anything else. Even more than his flirtation with the corrupt.

    http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/2012/05/19/our-president-is-a-stallion—and-thereby-hangs-a-tale

  • Maggs Naidu – ABZ – Zuma must go!

    ozoneblue
    May 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Hey OB,

    Zuma’s “weapon of choice” inspired all that???

    Wow – it is certainly sharper and more powerful than I thought.

    It’s more like a shipload of Mshini-wams than a “spear”!

  • Snowman

    This ‘work of art’ is more reprehensible than Daryl Peense’s act of accidentally spilling whiskey (or perhaps it was only whisky?) over our president. All concerned with this ‘work of art’ should be charged with crimen injuria and criminal defamation.

  • Scotty

    “..As this is a work of art, there is no chance that any half decent judge would grant the orders requested by the ANC…”

    I just wondered what a half INdecent judge would grant or say :-D

    I love it! The ANC has scored an own goal here with all the huff and puff. Just look at Mac Maharaj behaving more like PW Botha Groot Krokodil every time he wags his finger! Ha!

    Artists have always held up a mirror to society and its leaders. Those that can’t deal with this better head off to live in Zim or China where they lock up such naughty people. Perhaps Zuma & Co need to think hard why they are not getting the respect they so deeply crave? Just perhaps its because leaders get the respect they deserve, not demand?

  • Gondo Vambe

    wow this is the sop called democratic south Africa you have always told other African countries to follow. JZ do not complain becoz you and your ANC talk about Democracy and you do not know what it means. As long as you are a public figure with the kind of behavior you have, your image will always attract attention.

  • Gondo Vambe

    am back again, why do white South African Artists always want to make fun out of black african leaders? They want to be popular using black images.

  • Scotty

    @Gondo
    Sorry you got it wrong Gondo. Black, white and all variations in-between are making fun out of our pres. Its our constitutional right, for which thousands died for. Please go back into the history books and see how many people lost their lives and livelihoods when challenging (and making fun of!) the apartheid regime. Now we see history repeating itself and it ain’t gonna happen again!!

    http://ridwanlaher.blogspot.com/2012/05/should-anc-sue-artist-ayanda-mabulu-for.html

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  • Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder

    Gondo, what “race” do you think the following people are: Zille, De Klerk, PW Botha, Tony Leon, George Bush, Tony Blair, and Ariel Sharon? I suppose they must all be black, because they have all been subject to a some nasty ridicule by Zapiro!

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  • Len Freeman

    I wonder where the president will hang out next?

  • MosimaneWaMotswana

    I don’t care who you are but if you want to share any private parts and you are an artist show yours. Damn Mandela sold south africa out. God help us cause it looks like we will need him. It’s worse because this is not JZ size. Blacks dot have small sizes like that.

  • Thembart

    Zuma is a thief, Murray is a thief, Malema, a small ass thief. for 7 years they kept us in the bushes promising us black dominence and power. The only fuck-pudding they served us is a republic where everyone expresses their hate without fear, my racism was long time fuelled by my conditions *forgive and forget*i havent forgotten where i hid my guns in Zambia…what i have learned from this whole art ordeal is that we still cant stand one another. I jus saw the way my white neighbour was smiling at me this morning(i hate her) wonder if she will be my first target when evryone makes up their minds…Fuck evryone, im sick of all the pretending*it’s all in the blog you hate each other, lets start a war

  • Christopher Blackwell

    Perhaps Zuma would have done better to complain that the painted penis was too small and then laughed it off. Now just about everyone in the world has seen the painting and laughed about it. We are not near so gentle about our presidents here in America. Look at how much fun we had with Bill Clinton, nor is it just a modern thing for Jefferson’s sexual habits was used again him in his second campaign.

    Actually many of us people watching South Africa had hoped that the ANC would become a shinning example of democracy rather then developing into a mirror image of Apartheid. What an unfortunate drop in quality from Mandela, who showed some class, to the present President. Recreating the corruption and excesses of the Apartheid government is not progress.

    When the blacks became the political majority, they had the chance to show they could create a better and fairer government and unfortunately they have dropped the ball badly and it is all South Africans, including the blacks, that will suffer for it.
    What a shame that Africa has suffered for so long and seems working to continue the suffering for as long as possible. We have a black president ourselves,and why some may disagree with him mightily he does not disgrace the office of the President. I proudly voted him into office and though he has disppointed me, as all politicians do, he does not make me cringe. He is well educated and a gentleman and behaves like one even with some of the left over racism that still affects American politics.

    Black Africans are mankind’s oldest humans, created our earliest societies and civilizations. Perhaps some day they will be as proud again and as dignified as they once were in the distant past. With the collapsing of the present global civilization, we are very much in need of a rising new and more healthy civilzation. There is no reason that it could not be a black one. Make it happen. The sad present does not have to be the future as well.

  • Scotty

    @MosimaneWa..

    “…It’s worse because this is not JZ size. Blacks dot have small sizes like that
    …”

    My dear Mosi, we’re all wondering how you would know what JZ’s size is?
    Has he shown it to you perhaps? The majority of us here dont concern us with stereotypical (racist?) views about “blacks not having small sizes like that…” It appears you’re pre-occupied with this image though, so a polite suggestion is to do a bit of deep thinking on this, maybe get some help. Just a suggestion, not a demand.

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  • Gondo Vambe

    good reddens to bad rubbish, all we need is top protest against born again colonialist attitudes of making fun out of black people.

  • Brett Nortje

    Rather too abstract for you, was it?

  • dutchess

    This whole thing you fought over is just shit. You acting as if Jacob Zuma is your biological father and he came to your room crying saying see what they doing to me. Please people you acting worse than 3 year olds. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So if you love JZ go and marry him he’ll be happy to have a lawyer wife. If you don’t like himtoo bad suck it up, either way his our president.

  • dutchess

    This whole thing you fought over is just shit. You acting as if Jacob Zuma is your biological father and he came to your room crying saying see what they doing to me. Please people you acting worse than 3 year olds. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So if you love JZ go and marry him he’ll be happy to have a lawyer wife. If you don’t like him too bad suck it up, either way his our president.