I have always been a great fan of the cartoonist, Zapiro. He is intelligent, moral and brave – something one cannot say about too many people in South Africa. I am also not easily shocked and believe politicians generally deserve to be ridiculed and mocked. It is when people – especially politicians – start thinking they are beyond mocking and take themselves too seriously that trouble usually starts.
But when I saw his cartoon in the Sunday Times yesterday, I found myself wondering whether Zapiro had not gone too far and had perhaps not done something immoral and ethically deeply problematic.
Of course I agree with Zapiro that some of those ANC leaders who have been championing Zuma’s cause, have acted in a scandalous and despicable manner. I also agree that Zuma – through his silence – has aided and abetted some in the ANC in their very dangerous and immoral behaviour.
Perhaps one could still argue that a cartoonist may use the metaphor of rape in his cartoons to address a situation that he sees as dangerous and immoral – although I am not a woman and have never been raped, so maybe I am not the best one to judge this point. The metaphor of rape is definitely a powerful one – especially in a country like South Africa where so many woman have been and continue to be raped.
But I do wonder whether by using the metaphor of rape, Zapiro is not cheapening the horror of rape and – given our deeply patriarchal and sexist society – is not helping to desensitize us to this scourge. In a society where many men still see woman as something to be owned, I worry that this kind of cartoon might somehow send a signal to some men that rape is not such a bad thing.
In this cartoon Zapiro uses rape as a metaphor, of course, and he is using the horror that most ordinary decent people have of rape to make a very powerful point about the immorality of Zuma and his backers. But human beings are strange creatures – do we not become desensitized to a horror if we are exposed to it for long enough?
And what about the horrid sexists who might also be fans of Jacob Zuma? Is there not a danger that they will leer over this cartoon and somehow find it exciting or funny?
Lastly, the cartoon will be read in the context of Mr Zuma’s rape trial. Every single person who sees it will remember that Zuma was charged with rape and will make some connection between that charge and this cartoon.
But Zuma was acquitted in his rape trial. Although he said some very sexists and stupid things during his trial and although his supporters behaved appallingly outside the court, we have to respect the fact that he was acquitted because it shows our respect for the judiciary which, Zapiro suggests, Zuma’s supporters do not always show.
By depicting Zuma as a rapist – even in metaphoric terms – is Zapiro not disrespecting the decision by the court and planting the thought in our heads that maybe Zuma is a rapist after all? Is Zapiro in that way not undermining respect for the very judiciary he is purportedly defending by suggesting subliminally that Zuma should have been convicted?
I do not think there are easy answers to these questions. Maybe I am being prudish or overtly sensitive? I remain in two minds myself.
But perhaps we all have a duty when we engage in the public discourse to do so in a way that is not going to fan the flames of sexism, hate and violence. Maybe, just maybe, Zapiro overstepped the boundary in this case.
Good article Prof. The seriousness of the attack on the judiciary neccesitates this cartoon, in my opinion. Our citizens need to be shocked into realizing the seriousness of the situation.
Funny I saw the same cartoon and thought, “What’s an awesome cartoon, summing up so precisely what appears to be the modus operandi of our so-called leaders.
With regard to your idea that a cartoon somehow makes us less sensitive to rape, that’s about as nonsensical as saying that watching Road-Runner cartoons makes us desensitized to animal cruelty.
And I hear this cartoon has gotten the chattering classes, well chattering. Good job Zapiro. Job well done, I’d say.
The cartoon is particularly apt in Zuma’s case as he is raping the judiciary and the whole legal system. “i will welcome my day in court.” has now become one legal challenge after another to avoid going to court.
On second thoughts maybe the victim should be Mother Africa.
I thought the cartoon was very accurate indeed. What is currently happing in our judiciary must be illustrated as the abuse of power that it is (very similar to rape in this regard). Another brilliant piece of satire from Zapiro. Keep them coming.
I like the cartoon. It paints the picture 100% …but the article above does highlight something though… If Jacob Zuma is disrespecting justice system, and he is, isn’t this cartoon disrespectful to the justice system too? Zuma was exonerated after-all (regarding the rape case) and we should respect it as such. I don’t for one minute believe Zuma is innocent, but the law is the law…
Just my 2c…
I think it’s otherway round. The judiciary (and the NPA) are busy raping President Zuma.
I am not surprise by the aforecomments from the anti-Zuma camp
The cartoon depicts Zuma preparing to rape “lady justice”. It is NOT necessarily implying that he was guilty as previously charged. Moreover, political satire is meant to remind of his past character, shower and all.
If Zuma gets away by having his pending charges dropped, he will have figuratively raped the justice system, aided by the ANC leaders.
Thus, I feel the depiction is quite apt. They are preparing to abuse a system that wants to care for and protect us…
Can there be many issues more serious?
Can there be many issues that may affect more lives in South Africa?
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this cartoon. It’s on-point.
lindelani maseko // Sep 8, 2008 at 1:54 pm
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Welcome back! I really missed having you around. Nobody has matched your entainment value thus far. I am looking forward to your blind Zuma following.
PS: I would not mind though if you could add a little bit of versitility to your posts… just to spice up the entainment. Once again, welcome back…
Do cartoonist or satirist have special provisions in our constitution that allows them to ’say’ anything they like. Zapiro is a highly intelligent individual and the rape connection is the crunch of the matter. If Zuma hadnt been accused of rape it would have been another cartoon showing disrespect or raping the rule of law BUT because Zuma WAS charged and acquited it does leave you wondering what Zapiro is up to. I guess it’s true what they say about never winning rape case even if acquited!
The last comment stating “I think it’s otherway round. The judiciary (and the NPA) are busy raping President Zuma” is the most obsurd and short sighted approach I have ever seen. Pure idiotic actually.
Its time for the “pro Zuma” camp to stand-up and deliver on “wanting their day in court” mantra. Now that it is here, why are they avoiding it so violently, to the point of “gang raping the judiciary” as accurately depicted by Zapiro.
“By depicting Zuma as a rapist – even in metaphoric terms – is Zapiro not disrespecting the decision by the court and planting the thought in our heads that maybe Zuma is a rapist after all?”
Come on, Pierre, surely there are thousands of people who already think that? They hardly need Zapiro to plant any thoughts in their heads. I don’t think one is disrespecting the judiciary by questioning its verdicts. We are a democracy with many forums (your blog, for instance) to discuss these and other questions openly.
Any number of court cases and verdicts over the centuries have aroused furious debate, without our fundamental belief in the system or the system itself being damaged or falling apart. No doubt many people have agreed with Mr Bumble and said ‘the law is a ass’.
But what Zapiro is drawing our attention to here is far more important than whether Zuma was rightly or wrongly found not guilty. He is not concerned with a few cases here and there perhaps being decided incorrectly. He is pointing out that a few dangerously powerful MEN are threatening the whole legal system and the Constitution itself. I think his cartoon illustrates this brilliantly.
I agree with those commentators above who say that the cartoon is apposite. The lady in the cartoon that is being held down so that she ‘could’ be raped, is none other than the one with the sword and the scales, one ‘Justitia’, the very emblem of justice in civilized states. Her sword has apparently been taken away in the cartoon, and our judicial system is about to be ravished by those who want to see the charges against Zuma dropped, come what may, even by protesting outside and inside courts, and who have already said that they will do anything for Zuma, even kill – which is obviously just as bad as rape. Good ‘toon Zapiro!!
You have missed the point entirely. This issue has nothing to do with Zuma’s rape case – it is a depiction in metaphorical terms of Zuma and his cronies violating or attempting to violate the Justice system. Where does his rape case come into this and where does Mantashe get the racsim idea from? The fact that Zuma was accused of rape and acquited does not mean that any metaphorical depiction of rape such as in this case automaticaly infers that Zuma is indeed a rapist. The cartoon in fact brilliantly depicts exactly what was intended – the violation of the justice system.
Spot on! Lindelani is clearly a blinkered, brainwashed, Zumaist. The symbolism in the cartoon is classic, and must rate as one of Zapiro’s best.
If the ANC attempts to have this cartoon retracted, we will clearly be seeing a foretaste of things to come in 2009 if Zuma takes charge. Press freedom is already being challenged and criticised, and once the DSO has disappeared, we will be sinking into a real Zimbabwe-esque scenario.
It is time someone drew attention to the shocking behaviour of these political figureheads and their most avid supporters. I find that the rape metaphor has been used with the strict intention of sending shockwaves throughout the South African public… and not unduly so, for this metaphor is a reality on so many levels. We cannot allow a man who believes loyalty to be above the constitution to take the reins of our country. Well done Zapiro.
While this is an artistically strong cartoon which makes for thought-provoking public commentary, I find the picture revolting. It is a torture scene that assigns the spectator to join and watch the pain and agony of a woman, a suffering victim. It has a voyeuristic and sadistic aspect. Perhaps this is the intention of Zapiro – that we realize the horor and the gravity of what is going on in our political life. It is certainly not an uplifting picture to come across in your sunday morning read.
I agree with RB – in fact all cartoons by Zapiro since the rape case about JZ depict him with the shower on his head. Everyone knows where that comes from – Because he said during his rape trial that he had unprotected sex with the complainant and that he did not fear being infected by HIV (even though he knew she were), because he had a shower afterwards. Everyone who sees the cartoon with him being depicted with a shower-head will remember all too well that he has been acquitted during the rape trial. The lady about to be raped in the cartoon bears no resemblance to the complainant in his rape trial, and there it was never suggested that she was held down by the four thugs depicted in this very cartoon. Even one with an average IQ would see the real innuendo, that the thugs, properly identyified by the name tags to show their political afiliations, including JZ, are about to see to it that Justicia (read ‘criminal justice system’) is raped. I think Zapiro would have gone too far if he also included any of JZ’s Counselors, as they are apparently only fullfilling his instructions – although I daresay that they should’ve advised him by now to refrain from his histrionics outside court and to advise his followers to let him have his day in court; and, by not doing that, they are also not acting in the best interests of justice.
There is no such thing as rape in Africa it would seem. Women have always been at the bottom of the pile and depsite all the rhetoric sprouted about women’s rights they remain objects. Even the ANC Women’s League voted for Zuma.
Freeedom of expression is one of the fundamental rights enshrined in our constitution.
However, this right like any other rights needs to be exrcised responsible.
I recall in this blog some fool, quoted me the limitation clause, in support of his argument that constitutional rights are subject to the constitutional limitation.
how funny?
A very apt metaphor. Rape is disgusting, whether real or metaphorical. What Zuma is doing to our justice system is similarly disgusting.
Zapiro’s cartoon should not cheapen either instance of rape. I think to focus on the way the message is portrayed instead of the actual message is missing the point.
This is very worrying. Crime and rape are seen to be the norm in South Africa. I wonder what you said to your kids when they say the cartoon: “Don’t worry son it’s only a joke, women get raped everyday in South Africa”. I don’t care which camp you are in, acts of rape and crime are not to be made into jokes. What about the victims of rape: “Sorry we don’t care about them we only care that our political motives of removing JZ’s ambitions are meet”. Be careful of the message we are sending to our kids. Rape is now something to joke about. Is that the right message?
I know you will never understand.
After the recent seminar (SSLSJ) in Onrus, I’ve realised that the far left can be just as bad as the far right… And if it too is not curbed we will have trouble from all quarters in our land.
so in saying that, If we condone this cartoon then i guess Julius can be forgiven for his outbursts as well.
Zapiro, you are brilliant !
This is a very shocking cartoon – but makes a very frightening point crystal clear ! (to me anyway) – I couldn’t have put it better in words.
Last time I checked, president Zuma was acquitted by these glorified courts of law on rape charges.
It is defamatory and disgusting to learn that this particular newspaper or cartoonist, for that matter, have decided to publicly labelled Zuma the rapist.
Obviously, this Zapiro guy is nothing more than a stupidiest attention seeker who contradicts himself.
I think he’s the one who’s raping our justice system.
He is not only defaming Zuma but he has gone as far as undermining the rule of law. The court of law (justice system) which he ironically seem to be protection by his cartoon did acquit Zuma on rape charges. On the other hand the “legal expert” in this regard being Mr Zapiro connotes that the court of law (thus the justice system) was wrong beacuse Zuma is indeed a rapist.
I feel that this illiterate stupid clown (Zapiro) needs to be slammed with a billion rand defamation claim and the warrant of arrest should be issued for contempt of court ( for publicly condemning the court’s decision, instead of using appropriate forums)
Bravo Shapiro , the truth well depicted !!
Weirdly, I was attending a open interview with Zapiro yesterday morning. He showed us the cartoon knowing that it would be at that moment causing many people a sharp intake of breath as they sipped their Sunday morning coffee. He thought very very carefully before submitting it, and sent it to many female friends to test out the legitmacy and effect of the rape metaphor. I think its important to know that it was a carefully considered.
what a great view from Zapiro, its like looking at Cape Town from the top of the table mountain.
Thomas, if you think that Zapiro is joking then it shows how little you understand about satire and satirical cartoons. This isn’t Disney. Zapiro’s cartoon and his message are both deadly serious.
I am not a fan of Mr. Zapiro and have disagreed with many of his comics in the past.
However, I could not agree with him more with his latest comic. This is a classic depiction of the true situation that we have in our country. Jacob Zuma and his lapdogs are making an absolute mockery of our great nation and consequently threatening our potential for greatness!
People like Lindelano Maseko are blind-folded to the atrocities currently being committed by the Zuma-camp by their own greed and passive-racism!!!!!!
And to those who are offended by the “rape-scene” depicted in the cartoon…it is sad that you take more action over a cartoon that is published than the actual rape incidents that occur daily in our country. This cartoon can only result in greater awareness of both the physical and intellectual rape in our nation. Grow-up, stop complaining, get off your couch and start doing something more constructive towards the fight against rape and corruption!
WELL DONE MR ZAPIRO FOR CONVEYING THE TRUTH!!
Lindelani
You and Julius.
Lindelani
You and Julius!!!!!!
maseko, i dont think u have the right to lecture anybody about constitutional rights…… zuma jumping dancing and singing his “bring me my machine gun” song in front of thousands of poeple, in front of the media ……clearly exercising his freedom of expression……whether its responsible or not ,is an opinion…….same applies to this cartoon……….which in “my opinion” quantifies SA in general……
CRY THE RAPED COUNTRY!!!!!!!!
“By depicting Zuma as a rapist” – INCORRECT!
POTENTIAL rapist is more accurate. On another subject, you don’t kill your allies – only those who disagree with you. Who will want to disagree with Zuma and his henchmen once he/they are in power?
If Zuma was offended, then why not take Zapiro to court for slander? Freedom of the press, horah!
Very well drawn. Look at the discussion it has generated. Zapiro has my respect for his fealess efforts.
The cartoon is so far above Lindelani’s head. Is it worth the effort attempting to EXPLAIN it to him?
Rubbish anonymouse even u with your hi IQ surely u can see that zumas rape case has everything to do with it? Isnt satire after all about saying the obvious in a not so obvious way.
“Obviously, this Zapiro guy is nothing more than a stupidiest attention seeker who contradicts himself.
I think he’s the one who’s raping our justice system.”
Sorry – what?
Niel u want lindelani to agree with you so that you stop insulting him. I am always amazed at how we all are dictators at heart and yet we vociferously shout 4 democracy and its goodies. U r as democratic as people agree with u and when they dont they are proZUMA fools!
Possibly, the people who cry “Kill for Zuma” will now understand that such slogans can be understood for they literaly mean. You cannot simply say “that is not what i meant” and expet the greater public to accetp that you did not imply a realistic possibility of violence.
I believe that although the mental picture portrayed in the cartoon is very frightening, we cannot turn a blind eye to the reality of disrespect for our justice system and the public of South Africa need to heed the warnings signs that are all to obvious at the moment.
Good depiction of a scary situation.
Zapiro has exhibited moronic drawing. I truly hold that he acted stupidly on this metaphorical depiction of Zuma about to help himself on justice, with the shower soothing him. I think we must not rape the doctrine of freedom of expression. Zuma has been referred to as “Mr Pants”, “the lover president”, “Mr baby oil” , “the shower man”.
Julius has said we are prepared to Kill and die for zume, in a metarphorical sense of doing everything possible do defend Zuma who has been found guilt by members of the public court, the media and even judges before the actual hearing. The forthcoming court is propably a formality, going through the motions.
Zapiro must take himself serious
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Poor Lindelani: You really have no idea what free speech is, do you? Look up the the word “satire” in the dictionary. On that subject, what the hell is “stupidiest”? Also do a Google search for Zapiro, and you’ll see that Zapiro has more credentials as a struggle activist than the glorious JZ.
Zapiro can imply that Zuma is a rapist, because as far as the court was concerned, there was insufficient evidence and some witness contradiction. He was certainly not proven not guilty, just not sufficiently guilty. This does not imply innocence.
As for a warrant of arrest for contempt of court: if that had to be true, maybe we are indeed living in Zimbabwe?
I was just wondering what sort of education or tertiary qualifications are required to become a leader of a party, or for that matter the president of the country.
maybe time for a career change?????
Stalin et lindelani – clearly this cartoon is over your heads (as Niel points out above), and it really is not worth the effort to explain it to you that it has nothing to do with the completed rape trial. What it has to do with, is the iminent rape of the criminal justice system, which ANC, ANCYL, COSATU, SACP is busy facilitating (holding Justicia down) – and this they are doing with their (including eminent lawyers like Mathews Phosa nogal) unfounded criticism of the judicairy and mass protests ouside and inside courts (which challenges and attacks the independence of the judiciary); economy-crippling mass action; and, chanting stupid slogans like “We will die and kill (is rape too far fetched?) for Zuma”; and, with JZ on the verge of obliging – and this he is doing through all his frivolous applications aimed at slowing the system down and delaying justice to the people of South Africa; and singing Awuleth Umshin wami after each court appearance to show his disrespect for the system. I can’t see anything wrong with the cartoon, even by its bringing in JZ’s immoral character that was displayed during the rape trial (which shows clearly that law does not equal morality in every respect). He and his cronies will lose a defamation lawsuit hands (or ather ‘pants’) down. lindelani – your calling the person who drew your attention to s 36 of the Constitution a ‘fool’ amounts to nothing but an unfounded ad hominem attack, and clearly you do not have an argument. If Zapiro’s right to freedom of speech should be limited, then clearly you should be censured for unfoundedly calling someone a ‘fool’. Stalin – thanks for thinking that I have a ‘hi IQ’, but I know all too well that sarcasm and flattery are usual bed-fellows.
Thomas – In this I have to agree with Martin above. If things like these cannot (or should not) be published because of the bad influence it might have on the populace, then where does this leave the publication of pictures of the 9/11 incident? The message should be brought to the people, so that they can know. As Ettiene Van Heerden once said: “As jy iemand op sy brein wil slaan, moet jy hom bleddie hard slaan, anders gaan die geleentheid verlore.”
Ishmael Malale – ‘Zuma has been referred to as “Mr Pants”, “the lover president”, “Mr baby oil” , “the shower man”.’ … What about “Mthontho we Sizwe”? … Anyway, why bring that in while criticising Zapiro?
Jakes – I agree with you. JZ’s acquittal on the rape charge does not mean that he is innocent, just that his guilt was not established beyond reasonable doubt. On this subject, I also think one aspect was not thoroughly traversed by the prosecution and the court – and that is that JZ first told the investigators (in person and through his lawyer) that ‘nothing’ happened between him and the complainant; but, later, much later, when the information on the police docket was divulged, showing that he is being linked by DNA evidence with having had sex with the complainant within the time frame testified to by her, he suddenly, for the very first time, pleaded ‘consent’. If this is not a case where he ‘tailored’ his defence to fit the available evidence (something Mahomed DJP – as he then was – in the Shabalala matter said should not be reason enough for not divulging info on police dockets), then I do not know what would amount to such a case.
Has anyone seen the Roman sandals on lady Justicia’s feet? Zapiro is one for detail, fo sho!
Or, … are they Xhosa sandals?! Satire knows no limits!
Aaagh shaame?! Is this what the so-called ‘leadership think?
http://wwwdotnews24dotcom/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,,2-7-12_2390164,00dothtml
Now everyone’s lamenting – ANC, Cosatu, SACP (but not yet ANCYL!) = go see what News 24 has to offer! Bad taste! … They say. Uncalled for! … They say. Exceeding all limits of freedom of speech! … They say. Some animals are more equal than others! … They say.
Zapiro – Good job! … I say.
Last year when the toilet paper called the sunday times published the stolen medical records of our Health Minister, I vowed never to buy this toilet paper until the current editor and his deputy are removed. This toilet paper has had 2, TWO, TWEE front page headline retractions in a space of one month.
In order to deviate the public from a clear journalistic and editorial incompetence, they print a cartoon that they knew very well would be controversial. Now everybody is discussing the cartoon and not the credibility of this toilet paper. Unfortunately my fellow bloggers have fallen trap to this conniving distraction.
Khosi – how’re ya faring in Harare ‘Bruh’?!
The cartoon by Zapiro in the Sunday Times, depicting the gang rape of Lady Liberty/Justice/Democracy struck at the heart of every right minded South African. The message is horrible but real.
For months, politicians, analysts, journalists, academics and moderate South Africans in general has tried to point out the dangerous game being played by the Zuma/Mantashe Cabal (Mantashe, Zuma, Nzimandi, Vavi and Malema) with the future of democracy and our constitution, as we know it, in South Africa.
Continual attacks by the members of this cabal have been the order of the day and these attacks include the incitement of violence. Supporters of this faction of the ANC alliance with the active support and approval of their leaders have taken place with the clear intent of intimidating, through threats of violence and mayhem, any one opposing their interests.
As late as last week, actions by these, so-called, leaders included:
- A threat by Vavi that Cosatu will take to the streets and their may be no way in which their anger will be controlled or words to the effect. A clear warning to anyone doing anything (fair, legal or otherwise) that will prevent Zuma from being President.
- The announcement by ANCYL of a campaign CD the contains songs that are blatantly inciting violence against opponents
- Zuma supporters storming a court building in KZN.
There are a multitude of similar and worse examples of statements made and actions taken by members of this cabal and their followers over the past ten months. Despite criticism and complains these leaders have, instead of distancing themselves, continued with their campaign.
The cartoon by Zapiro in the latest edition of the Sunday Times describes what has been happening in the most graphic and brutal fashion. He has given South Africans the clearest possible vision of what is awaiting us.
Not surprisingly, the ANC has issued a strong statement criticizing the cartoon and what it depicts. Unfortunately, the truth is too clear and as long as the mentioned leaders do not change their stance and as long as the ANC as an organization accepts the rhetoric emanating from a section of their leadership they will be judged by the content of this cartoon and by history.
For the rest of us, we can only hope and pray that a true leader will rise within our country in the near future. A leader with a calling to greatness, not a man who will manipulate and destroy a country to attain his personal narrow agendas. A man that will put the country before a political party.
Anyone who doubts Zapiro’s use of the rape metaphor must consider this. The people being fingered in the cartoon have all refused to apologise for their offensive statements and actions. They were berated from outside and within the party and there reaction was one of defiance. This cartoon has resulted in outrage because it is true, it shocks and they cannot ignore it or defy it. Mission accomplished
Khosi – But, in any case, it seems you have been buying the specific brand of ‘toilet paper’ after all, otherwise you would not have known about the ‘retractions’? Anyway, … or so they say, … Sunday Papers (including the paticular paper you refer to) do not block drains. So, after use, flush them! But you’ll remember what you wiped your ‘a…e’ with, … and, if it contained even a shadow of the truth, … it’s bound to plague you in your dreams! … Seryiaahs! FOH SHO! Njannies!
This is a great cartoon, an excellent comment made with a gravity and shock-value entirely appropriate to the challenges Zuma’s die-hard supporters are currently waging against the judiciary and the criminal justice system.
My only concern is a serious but pragmatic one: that it might be wiser at this stage to mollify rather than antagonise the already militaristic Zuma faction.
However, I think Zapiro’s comment is entirely apposite and I applaud his courage.
Rat,
I do not buy that toilet paper and I do not read that toilet paper. The information about the retractions and the cartoon is all over the other media.
Do not be basic
Rat,
With magistrates like you, then you wonder why lady justice did not have her sword.
I agree completely with pierre, because i am not a female and i have not been raped. All i know is that the social conception of rape is far from accurate. It is abound with myth and false statements that result from the patriarchy. The trauma of rape is devastating beyond words.
Let us say there are two parties to a text: the writer and the reader. though zapiro might have contemplated using an ‘accurate’ description of rape, the reader might view it from a social view. So too shall the inverse apply. The result is that miscommunication might occur on a very sensitive part of south african life. this miscommunication makes the metaphor less than adequate a tool. that is the problem. a very serious problem in fact.
i understand the message of zapiro, there are other non insensitive metaphors he could have used to communicate the gravity – which is serious – of the situation. It is too strong an image. I think. yeah, that’s what i think. He should be careful, lest he might revictimize rape survivors.
Whatever, maybe i should have written this.
I wasn’t aware that consitutional law was a personal matter. What an individual thinks about something, regardless of who they are or what they studied, isn’t relevant if we’re looking at constitutional principles. Rights are defensible against other people’s expressions of their rights.
So what right have been trodden on by Zapiro here? Your right not to be offended? It’s a tasteless, offensive cartoon. But it has an inevitable and indefensible point.
Oh, but wait! In fact you are right. Your rule is law by the circular logic of the ‘reasonable person’ not actually being a normal person but one of the Western-educated constitutionalists. ‘Reasonable’ in the context of criminal law implies a kind of normal-relatively-moral-populace kind of behaviour. Not so here. The foundation crumbles.
Ultimately, if Zapiro’s cartoon is so controversial that it invokes vigorous public debate does it not serve an extremely valuable purpose? The number of responses to this blog alone speaks to this statement. Instead of fanning the flames of sexism, hate and violence perhaps what Zapiro’s cartoon really serves to do is to make us all sit up and pay attention to the fire in which our justice system is currently engulfed and to the arsonists who have ignited it.
I have always admired his work! Say it as it is. This is exactly what has been done! The parties involved are “raping” what this country is suppose to stand for “democracy”
As a victim of “gang” rape at 16. The image was in my face!!
But that said I don’t want my girls to grow up in a society that says its ok that justice is not served on so called political leaders. We now have two systems, one for the “ordinary” and one for the should be out of the ordinary!
lindelani maseko = The unfortunate results of a bantu education.
Just maybe – this is what this country needs – a slap in the face.
Something has to wake us up, to the arms deal kakistocracy.
The cartoon depicts the lumpen yobbishness of the participants to a T.
Bravo, Zapiro! Bravissimo!
How did we get into this position…?
I was recently illustrated the power of pornography by a media Prof. When one watches porn for the first time, he is excited. With continual viewing one becomes addicted then with time one’s lusts begins to develop and desire a perverted form and desire for *extreme porn*. I think this is what has happened here. Initially Zapiro was this satirist with low down satire drawing. But with time he has developed a perverted mind which is evident in this cartoon. This is sick, irregardless of whether you like or dislike (which i do) Zuma. Zuma et al should be attacked with logic and facts, not this.
I never thought i will ever write this but…
Rat i have to AGREE with Khosi on this one. Frightening is that YOU are a magistrate. Is there confidence when a magistrate refuses to exclude emotion when making an analyses? Justice is rooted in confidence and that confidence is destroyed when right minded people go away thinking the magistrate was emotional.
Zapiro showed the brutal truth of what is happening in our county. People need to look pass Zuma. He’s a mere figure (or is that shower?) head..
Who is attacking the justice system? They are the real threat to democracy in this country.
As Johny sung…
Steve Biko, Victoria Mxenge, Neil Aggett
Asimbonanga
Asimbonang ‘umfowethu thina
Laph’ekhona
Laph’wafela khona
Hey wena
Hey wena nawe
Siyofika nini la’ siyakhona
I agree with the cartoonist. The ANC can be compared of rapists, murderers and the likes. De Vos, himself as a gay activist is an ANC supporter himself. De Vos, you will fool many, but you will not fool me. It is a fact that De Vos was a regular at a gay club (Silver) in Cape Town. That club regulary got raided by SAPS as it was a busy spot for drugdealing.
I take comments by De Vos with a pinch of salt, as I know too much. He is a ANC supporter and will protect his masters no matter what!
If you are a politician no cartoon is beyond the pale. If you can’t take the heat, you should stay out of the kitchen.
Have a look at this cartoon.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/cartoon/2008/aug/22/mi5.rendition.torture
Or this one
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/cartoon/2008/jun/17/george.bush.gordon.brown.london
And this one
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/cartoon/2008/jun/12/georgebush
And another
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/steve_bell/2006/05/22/stevebell512ready.jpg
Mqo – “Is there confidence when a magistrate refuses to exclude emotion when making an analyses?” Fact is that we deal with so many of these cases on a daily basis that one’s senses have become dulled – we don’t feel shocked that often anymore, and we mete out justice with a mechanical mind and with precision, we use the sword of lady Justicia more often than you think – because it is exactly thugs like these that have been causing chaos in this country – blowin on hatred and violence with ‘Umshini wami’ and ‘we will kill’ mantras. They are therefore just depicted for what they are – thugs
It is indeed true that a picture is a thousand words. If the Sunday Times just had a story with headlines “The ANC and alliance are helping Zuma rape the justice system”, would there have been as much outcry as the cartoon generated?
Think about it.
I must agree I have little understanding about satire and satirical cartoons. Therefore this is why I had problems explaining the satirical cartoon to my little boy. As most of you seem to agree I am either too sensitive or totally ignorant on this matter. Should I now read your comments as an explanation of the cartoon to my son?
Andrea Becker // Sep 9, 2008 at 12:10 am
I agree with the cartoonist. The ANC can be compared of rapists, murderers and the likes. De Vos, himself as a gay activist is an ANC supporter himself. De Vos, you will fool many, but you will not fool me. It is a fact that De Vos was a regular at a gay club (Silver) in Cape Town. That club regulary got raided by SAPS as it was a busy spot for drugdealing.
I take comments by De Vos with a pinch of salt, as I know too much. He is a ANC supporter and will protect his masters no matter what!
Play the ball not the man. Give us the facts not your prejudices
The cartoon is shocking but sadly a true reflection of the reality in this country. What makes Zuma so special? Why does Zumaand his followers think that they are above the law and that the nation should step aside and let them have their way?
When the Malema and Vavi threaten the nation with murder it is quite acceptable and they can defend such reckless statements.
Let Zapiro have his say.
We need to wake up and face the fact that our country is being run by a bunch of thugs with no concern for the South African people.
Thomas – just explain to your son some basic principles – rape is wrong, justice is fair, abuse of the justice system is scary.
Give your son some credit – he’ll understand. Maybe he’ll surprise you and explain to you the meaning of satire! Kids these days – they’re informed.
Zapiro is the only one having enough balls to challenge the playground of the emotionally immature. That includes you Vossie.
I keep on praying for a South Africa where issues will be debated without race, emotions, ties or alliances clouding our judgement, where we do not have to defend or condemn something based on which side of the camp we are on. De Vos doesn’t have to be Anti or Pro ANC to support or defend an issue.
But that’s just me wishing for a perfect south Africa which we are far from ever being……
Back to the issue at hand, de Vos is questioning the appropriateness of using a sensitive and horrific issue to make a point. Just so you know that my judgement is not clouded by any Pro-Zuma sentiments, my opinion is that there is no question that Zuma and his allies are trying to undermine our justice system, some may agree some may disagree, but that is not my point… The question is, is Zapiro’s graphic illustration of intended rape appropriate in a South Africa that has the world’s highest rate of rape, where some men (and that might include some zuma supporters) still think nothing of forcing themselves on women and children. I stress graphic because if it was an article that had read “Zuma is raping our justice system” like Dumisani has suggested there would be no such commotion because we all understand the use of rape as a metaphor, but a graphic presentation of rape is going far…
As a woman I find rape horrific and therefore regard a depiction of a woman being held down whilst some men are cheering utterly disturbing. I think of the young men who are growing up and need role models, young boys who see these pictures and haven’t developed mentally to be able to make the distinction between what’s real or what’s right. What do they think of this? Or maybe we have not thought that far… Zapiro’s defence is that he thought of this cartoon carefully, but I doubt if he has thought carefully enough to look beyond just making a point about Zuma and consider the effect this would have on boys who already have few if any moral leaders to look up to….
Every person has a right to air his views, but the way Zapiro chose to do it is no different from the ANCYL’s statement to kill for Zuma.
Dumisani, it’s like I have been quoting you all day yesterday! Well said!
Once one has read about Justicia (the goddess of Justice), and understood that her image does not represent rape victims of SA, sense will prevail. I know that if you tell the general public about the dangers of a compromised judiciary, damage to the rule of law etc, they do not conceptualise them properly. Soccer fans will appreciate the bias of referees before they appreciate the threats to the independence of the judiciary that exist in SA at present. Zapiro has brilliantly brought home the sermon.
I salute him. I would rather he pays R 10m to whoever sues him for this, than that the legal system goes to the dogs to protect powerful citizens!
Stephen: I hope with kids its that simple. I used to wonder how kids could rape other kids and kill them too. Now I know.
No, it is not Zapiro who overstepped the boundary in this case, it Zuma and his scary cabal.
However, Law expert, Pierre de Vos says Shapiro might have gone too far by depicting rape in the cartoon. “I would just think that one should think very carefully before one uses rape as a metaphor in cartoons because I think in the end could possibly lead to the cheapening of the whole experience of rape and maybe some women will agree with the cartoon but I think there might be other women who won’t agree with it.” Quoted from http://www.sabcnews.com/south_africa/general/0,2172,176528,00.html
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I will deal with only the last part of this quote. The Prof here is missing the point by a huge margin, unfortunately. We live in a democratic country and the Prof should know this better than me. This necessitates diverse views. The fact that the Prof himself concedes that some may agree and some may not on its own dimystefies and elucidates this. Of course it is understandable that there will always be dissenting views no matter the topic but this should not stop the others to continue to hold their positive views.
Contextually, rape is a very serious and often committed crime in South Africa and the victims thereof should not be subjected to maltreatment and ridicule which could discourage them from coming forward with instances of rape. However, this does not detract from the equally serious and often (lately) committed attacks on the independence of the judiciary. If we were to lose the independence of the judiciary, rape would be committed in South Africa with impunity. Therefore, the protection of the independence of the judiciary through awareness of the seriousness of the attacks thereon, something which I opine was intended by Jonathan Shapiro (Zapiro), goes hand in hand with the protection of women who may be victims of rape in the future.
We must protect the independence of the judiciary. This, however, does not mean we should be insensitive towards rape victims. Zapiro in this case merely stepped too close to the dividing line being being insensitive to rape victims and making us aware of the seriousness of these brutal attacks on the independence of our judiciary. In my books this makes him a hero who should be praised without qualifications for tackling this serious matter head-on. We cannot over-emphasise the importance of an independent judiciary in the context of our young democracy which is consistently under pressure due to obvious reasons one of which has caused Zapiro to take the brave step which is now a matter of controversy. Good work Zapiro…
I live in a country that finds this image despicable and deplorable but I think its message is deeper and accurately defines South Africa and it’s complete lawlessness.
@ Herman Lategan
>”… it is not Zapiro who overstepped the boundary in this case, it Zuma and his scary cabal.”
True, but SO has Zapiro.
@Rat
I recently had a class mate who was brutally beheaded with his family during the weekend at his home. Now everyone knows that crime is high in S.A. But just because it is prevalent should our senses become dulled that we don’t feel any shock anymore?
@ Sne
My apologies, I just don’t understand your reasoning. After a wonderful analyses where you sure you wanted to end with;
“Good work Zapiro…”?
So the image (cartoon) is not a pretty one…..
Is that of what is happening in this country not unpretty too?
And oh how handy does the racist “red herring”, as Zapiro put it himself, come in when leaders have to face up to the public and take responsibility for their actions….
Heaven forbid you say anything wrong about the ANC, unions, etc,…..
Surely one would only do so out of racist belief, not because of how cruelly out of touch these groups and their leaders are with the problems of our beautiful land….
Zapiro, now more than ever, you have a fan.
Mqo // Sep 9, 2008 at 10:56 am
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I am sure I wanted to end with that. I did not want to just end with an unqualified “Good work Zapiro..” The analysis above showed that I applied my mind to the facts but still came to that conclusion which is fortunately different to the thinking of Prof De Vos.
PS: I am sorry about mispellings and other errors which could have caused your obfuscation as I was not using Microsoft Word.
Andrea Becker // Sep 9, 2008 at 12:10 am – you may know something about Prof De Vos that we do not know or an old score to settle with him, but I think you have chosen a wrong platform to do so. While I agree with you that the ANC since Polokwane can safely be likened with rapists and vicious murderers, I see nothing in Prof’s post that suggest he is opposed to this idea, or that give rise to your unfounded argument that he is trying to fool anyone. Prof’s primary concern in this post appears to me to be, inter alia, “whether by using the metaphor of rape, Zapiro is not cheapening the horror of rape and – given our deeply patriarchal and sexist society – is not helping to desensitize us to this scourge”. Instead of giving us your opinion in this regard, you resorted to raising wildly unnecessary issues of guy clubs, SAPS and drug dealing which add no value at all to the topic under discussion. I find your gayish argument careless, baseless and an act of unwarranted attack to Prof’s person than his opinion. I think you could have done better by just posting the first sentence of your first paragraph that – “I agree with the cartoonist” – without any elaboration.
It is true that South Africa should endeavor to broaden public discourse on strengthening its young democracy. Freedom of expression and media freedom should be equally respected as critical elements in building a democratic society. Unfortunately, in this instance, I am of the view that Zapiro stepped over the line. Using rape as a metaphor for his whims is reckless and irresponsible especially in a country such as South Africa where rape of women and children has became a scourge!
How do you use rape to make a point? We hear about thugs out to rape lesbians – to make a point… should we then as a country encourage desensitizing the rape crisis? The many nods approving of Zapiro insensitivity should be discouraged – we can’t allow a situation where people trusted with a responsibility of informing the public misuse it to settle their own personal scores. They can create a blog where they can share their sick creativity.
The cartoon was beyond sickening – unfit for publishing in a decent news paper.
@ Pierre de Vos
Shapiro is just doing what people such as yourself are perfectly placed to do but don’t have the cojones (that means balls) to do, i.e. defending the constitution and the rights of the man in the street, of all races.
The bunch depicted in that cartoon should not even be in charge of a public toilet nevermind in charge of the country.
WELL DONE SHAPIRO.
JZ created problems for himself…He must face the music.We are all equal before the court of Law and JZ is not special….Why is he trying to get in to a plea bargain with the NPA if he knows he is not guilty….He is a complete joke and he his allies are just supporting him because they are opportunists and corrupt individuals as well.
What a shame to Vavi, Mantashe and Malema…how can you attack an independent body like Our courts like that….i think you need to be arrested for making such stupids comment in public because you are just creating an unrest and bad country for all of us…..
It’s a pity all this nonsense is happening in our lifetime…
undoubtedly shocking. very effective. perhaps it would have been better to depict some other kind of violent act? i agree that constant exposure to violent images isn’t good, as it does numb us somewhat. that said, i don’t think anyone has an excuse to ever rape, no matter what. i also have a bit of a problem with the whole victim part of rape. the problem with rape is the shame i suppose. i always wonder why you would tell all and sundry if you were hijacked or mugged or shot, but you would keep rape as a guilty secret? society has a bad perception of rape, i sometimes think. and people do treat the victim as if she has something to be ashamed of… just a thought. that’s probably why (in a sickening way) rape is the more powerful image?
Pierre,
I have not participated in this blog for quite some time. Then I remembered reading somewhere that Martin Luther King once said something that went like this: “The day we become silent on an issue that matters is the day we die”.
I think Zapiro has outdone himself. Only a few would muster enough courage – in such a troubled political climate as ours – to raise the middle to the ALLIANCE. I do sympathize with those who take his powerful social commentary as encouraging rape and as desensitized to the rape scourge in our country. This is unfortunate. But I guess we see what we want in anything. I have a good feeling Zapiro wanted us to see our country on a brink of collapse. That collapse would be ensured once we have brought to the ground an institution that is the envy of many countries the world over. An institution –together with the Constitution- that is the thread that holds the various population groups in this land together.
The last point above is exactly the reason why I am participating in this debate. Zapiro depicts a justice system on the ground and about to be violated. That is my problem with the cartoon. Of course Zapiro means to say – as we all do – that the justice system is under threat. However by depicting it on the ground he is saying that it is not only under threat but has already been brought down or is no longer free and therefore independent. In my view a justice system under threat would have been correctly depicted by showing it standing and/or resisting approaches from the members of the alliance. As such the cartoon would still carry the same powerful message that our justice system is under threat and that there have been attempts to interfere with its work but that it has resisted these attempts or approaches. That is the aspect of the cartoon that troubles me.
I guess my question therefore is: Has our justice system succumbed to the political influence from the Alliance? Has the alliance brought it down and ready to violate it? Is it therefore no longer free and independent?
The ANC cries foul (The M&G)
Zuma sues Zapiro for defamation of character. (The Times)
The ink is not dry and the ANCYL lauches an attack on Justice Langa. (see The Times)
How stupid can one be.
Malema’s pasport and ID was stolen. Rumour has it that Mothlante will use it for a chimpanzee he purchased on a market in Kampala. The Chimpanzee willl impersonate Malema thus doubling the IQ and EQ of the Zuma/Mantashe cabal.
Julius Malema, him of “I’ll kill for Zuma” and “My education level is suspect” fame, said at the Free State conference of the ANC that Jacob Zuma will rule from prison. This could be an indication that the powers to be in the ANC are starting to accept that, given current evidence, they may not be able to keep Jacob Zuma out of jail. According to a reliable source, the NEC of the ANC has now drafted a plan to move the seats of power to facilitate a smooth take over by the Zuma regime.
According to the source, the Presidency will be moved to the Pollsmoor Prison. The President, Vice-President, Ministers and their staff will have their offices and accommodation compounds here. The seat of government will move to Cape Town Zoo for the obvious reason that the President cannot be too far away from the Parliament, unlike Mbeki he wants to keep his finger on the pulse. The plan also allows for the retention of the Administrative Capital, which, in future will be housed in the Pretoria Zoo with the Presidents Pretoria offices being located at Pretoria Central prison. The ANC executive has apparently also decided that, to be in step with the moves of the government, the ANC head office will relocate to the Johannesburg Zoo.
The meeting did consider the impact of the envisaged relocation on the current inhabitants of the facilities in question. The consensus agreement was that the prisoners and animals should not be relocated. It was felt that the current inhabitants can make positive contributions to the growth and networking objectives of the ruling party. In the second place, senior leaders will identify with the struggle well into the future and they will remain sensitized to violence. Secondly, changing the prisons demographics to largely white collar criminals many well connected people will be in residence benefit the ability of the leaders to negotiate free of outside interference. In the third place, the popularity of the two zoos will ensure closeness to future generations, impacting positively on the population who will be seeing “government in motion” and their leaders interacting with all the other species in their working space. Finally, top leaders will be more in touch with the electorate and less reliant on information flowing through the ANC branches and regions.
On the international front, “Plan Orange” will ensure that current or future South African despotic leaders will not suffer the humiliation of facing the ICC. What is the point of prosecuting someone already in prison? It is even possible to make the facilities available to other Africa leaders who can then act as advisors to the government. The possibilities are endless.
It was suggested that Luthuli House would be sold to slumlords to be used as low-cost housing. This will swell party coffers whilst at the same time show deep care the ANC leadership has for the poorest of poor.
Funding for the plan will be made available in the next budget and the cost will be justified by the savings affected from legal costs historically spent by the government to keep high profile politicians out of jail.
It is expected that “Plan Orange” will result in some resistance from the SPCA, opposition parties, SAPOHR and others. The meeting however felt that most opposition parties could be eliminated because of their reluctance to govern with animals and crooks, which may mean killing only a few. Golden Miles Budu will be given the role currently being held by Frank Chikane and the other organizations with objections will be branded as “counter revolutionary” resulting in minimum fuss.
It was decided to form a steering committee that will oversee the planning and transition. The committee will function under the Chairmanship of Comrade Julius Malema and will pay special attention to the pairing of inhabitants and newcomers. The last thing they want is conflict because of incompatibility. The Executive however feels that Comrade Malema has such a good understanding of both the criminal mind and the animal psyche, that the risks will be minimal under his leadership. It was however suggested that Comrade Vavi, because of his astuteness when it comes to economic realities, take an active role in the financial and economic justification of the project
I must be honest and say that I haven’t had the time to read ALL the posts yet. You lot were far too vocal today.
I wanted to also add to the comments. And I have to welcome Lindelani back, it seems the only time any legal debate is worthy of his attention is when it involves JZ, so our justice system should serve him. Just a thought. And while I’m on that, Lindelani is then showing how JZ is raping our legal system…
Anyway, that was a brave cartoon. Should this be limited? NO. It has done exactly what freedom of expression should do, open up the discourse. We can then decide for ourselves whether JZ and his henchmen are in fact aiding in the subjection and greatest absue of our justice system. I’ll take some time to decide. It should be noted how both the SACP and COSATU hold one harm together, do they have less power than Malema – holding an arm on his own? Also the ANC isn’t doing anythng physical, just spurring their president on. It should also be noted that there is a possibility of gang rape since there are a number of men and lady justice is blindfolded. Could this add to the fear that more people will do as Zuma is doing? I think the cartoon is powerful and not racist. It akes critical commentary and draws a very interesting comparison.
If it is ok to incite people to kill for Zuma, judging by the SAHRC’s very polite approach to developing a human rights culture, then why should it not be ok to discuss JZ’s treatment of the justice system?
What metaphor would be better? a slap?
We should not be held hostage to the whims of the Zuma camp,thank Zapiro for putting that point in clear terms,albeit vividly.
Their continued attack on the judiaciary has to be questioned in so many ways,the least they could do now is to give us real answers,surely there can find another replacement for Zuma….
“Zimification”.
Siya
An excellent post, its people like you that makes all this worth while!
Of course Zapiro is not disrespecting the rape decision. The rape imagery in this cartoon is entirely metaphorical and also entirely appropriate – Zuma is ‘violating’ the justice system. The fact that rape is something associated with Jacob Zuma is a situation brought about by his own irresponsible and short-sighted behaviour – whether or not you think he did it (for the record, I don’t). Zapiro has no moral duty to defer to these perceptions. The fact that this apt depiction of the subjects’ behaviour conjurs up recollections of past accusations is incidental and Zuma has no one to blame for it but himself.
Well done Siya. Indeed, this is the truly concerning issue.
Prof jy raak nou n TV star!
Lindelani – you’re a fool and I strongly doubt your intellectual capacity! Why don’t you focus on your spelling before moving into the political debate arena?
if Zapiro is reading this, the next cartoon should be Karma spanking zuma over her knee.
viva freedom of speech viva!!!
Pierrre..I think the cartoon went too far, because the way it was structured means that Zuma is still a rapist, while the court of law declared him innocent on the rape charge. So I think Zapiro went too far, meaning that ,Zuma’s constitutional rights on his dignity and privacy were infringed by the cartoon.
Dari u are a fool too
Zuma has no dignity. He is a coward who can’t face the music (whether innocent or not). I think he is a selfish individual who has gone on a personal power trip, disregarding the entire country and what we (should) stand for! I have lost all my respect for him.
Anonymouse // Sep 8, 2008 at 5:36 pm – I agree with your arguments in this post. Having followed Zapiro’s brilliant work since the disappearance from the media space of Sydney Chama, I have always found his cartoons to be, above all other aspects, reflective of the real situation on the ground. He does not often create fictitious cartoons that you cannot relate to our day-to-day socio-political and economic life. Affected people, in particular, may not like it when he (a) satiristically reproduce their acts, particularly if they are shameful acts because this would, among other things, increase and broaden people’s awareness about them and their misdeeds, and (b) the brilliant, intelligent, creative and metaphoric way in which he is reproducing such actions because it often unearth the hidden meanings associated with such acts that could not easily be understood as well as the extent of the damage or positive impact that such acts may have to our life in general. For ease of reference in this regard you can refer to his previously published books that are largely dominated by the socio-political and economic events of the Mandela and Desmond Tutu era as well as the beginning of the Mbeki era.
I agree with Zapiro in his interview with SAFM in the morning yesterday that this could have happened anywhere, anytime and to anybody provided the situation that gives rise this cartoon exists as it is the case in our country now. Unfortunately during the Mandela era we did not have in SA a leader of any industry, politics included, who performed so legendarily like our own JZ did to date to have gotten himself involved unintelligently (for a former ANC head of intelligence) so in a myriad combination of immoral (his acquittal noted, in any case this cartoon is not about his previous rape case but rather about his current conduct and behavior relating to his pending prosecution for graft, gross undermining of the rule and attack to the judiciary which is tantamount to raping the judicial system), unacceptable and unjustifiable violent political act with utter disrespect of the law, while aspiring to be the president of the same country whose justice system he is destroying with impunity. Had we had such a person, I have no doubt Zapiro could have picked it up, and captured it in the same bravery manner as he did us proud with regard to this one today. The same goes for had it happened during Sydney Chama’s time, save the apartheid laws by then; he would have found a way to expose the rot without fear, favour or prejudice. This is irrespective of who is involved, status of the office s/he occupies, popularity or lack thereof, the outspokenness of his/her supporters and the threats s/he and his/her supporters pose to the country if anyone dares touch such a person; worse therefore if it is JZ who has never conducted himself in the manner that disassociates him from all the allegations leveled against him, let alone the manner fitting a leader of any public institution, the ruling party and a democratic country like SA.
Regarding your concern Prof, for many reasons I personally do not think the use of rape metaphor in the manner in which Zapiro used it in this cartoon will cheapen the horror of rape and desensitize us to this scourge. It cannot be correct to say there is more damage in talking about rape than in doing rape. As I have indicated earlier, the cartoon is just an illustration of what is happening in our day-to-day life and not Zapiro’s figmentation. The (lower/higher) degree at which people currently regard rape as horrible and sensitive may not be worsened by the satristical manner in which Zapiro has metaphorically used in this picture, especially if it is analyzed within its correct context and in relation to the characters depicted in the cartoon. If anything and that is if viewed generally, it can only increase the degree at which people should view rape as sensitive, horrible and an abomination. In this regard and within the correct context, even if this cartoon or similar cartoons were to be repeated on weekly basis, as long as there exist similar conditions that gave rise to it, it would still have the positive impact I think this one has. The opposite can potentially be possible if rape is, metaphorically or literally, carelessly, frequently and randomly claimed and applied out of necessary context for whatever ends. For instance, the careless and baseless manner in which the new ANC-NEC has attacked the judiciary, courts and judges weakens and cheapens any valid claim that one may have against the judiciary, particularly if the aggrieved party here is the ANC. The careless and politically immature manner in which the new ANC and its alliance have misused and mislabeled people and institutions counterrevolutionaries weakens and cheapens any valid counterrevolutionary claim the liberation movement may have in future. The same goes for women who carelessly claim rape to settle non-sexual scores and differences weakens and cheapens any valid rape claim any women may have in future. Particularly when such frivolous claims are latter proved to be baseless in the court of law. I submit that Zapiro’s cartoon does not fit into these scenarios above.
Regarding the timing of the rape metaphor at the time when the incidents of rape are at increasing steadily in the country, we need to be holistic and compare this cartoon with the illustrations of rape contained in various movies from other countries that hit shelves uncensored and also in our local soapies and dramas to determine which ones have negative impact before we demonize Zapiro’s cartoon and its clear intention. The fact that rape is high in the country does not means we should not show it with the purpose of shaming it as I believe this cartoon is doing. It is highly possible that if we could identify and censor all the print and electronic pictures illustrations of rape, this cartoon could avoid the guillotine. One of the ways to test if this cartoon does or have potential to result in the assumptions contained in Prof’s concern would be to test the following aspects before and after this cartoon was publicized (a) people’s attitude towards rape, (b) the increase or decrease of rape statistics in the country, as well as (c) linear relationship between such an established trend and the publication of this cartoon. I doubt if the hypothesis contained in Prof’s concerned can be confirmed.
On the relationship between this cartoon and Zuma’s previous rape case – as earlier indicated, only if you analyze it subjectively and out of context this relationship can undoubtedly be established. But if you allow objectivity to prevail, you will realize that the rape metaphor is used to reflect on the manner in which JZ and his supporters connive in the common act of rendering the justice system dysfunctional for a short-term goal of saving Zuma from prosecution for graft charges, through inter alia, his frivolous pre-litigations, deliberate misinterpretation of court processes and decisions, gross undermining of the rule of law, threatening and attacking the NPA, courts and judges, dismantling the DSO and the justice system based on unfounded grounds of conspiracy and inaccessibility of justice to the poor. Despite the rape victim here depicted as being a lady, there was really no intention from Zapiro’s site, as he stated this during the interview with SAFM in the morning yesterday, to bring this case into the picture. Zuma himself brings this as part of his moral baggage into the picture because of his previous sexual (mis)conduct and (mis)behaviour with the daughter of his former comrade who viewed him as `malume’. And this is correct, say for instance, Zuma is replaced in the picture by Archbishop Desmond Tutu (no offence or comparison intended); could the same conclusions be reached that the cartoon is (a) disrespecting the court decision on any previous rape case involving anyone, and (b) that it is planting the thought that anyone is a rapist after all? I doubt. Can one also miss the powerful message that this cartoon is intending to revealing that what JZ and his supporters are doing is tantamount to raping the justice system? I also do not think this picture has any power or influence to plant any thought in anybody’s head to the effect that Zuma is a rapist (despite his acquittal which we acknowledge on the grounds well discussed by Anonymouse in his // Sep 8, 2008 at 6:00 pm input) than his own misconduct and utterances during is rape trial. And the fact that he is not suing for all being pictured with a shower on the head, baby oil, and called names such as Mr. love pants, kanga man e.t.c can only be interpreted as being in agreement with such commentary.
The above analysis therefore, offsets Prof’s question “by depicting Zuma as a rapist – even in metaphoric terms – is Zapiro not disrespecting the decision by the court and planting the thought in our heads that maybe Zuma is a rapist after all? I cannot sign it off better than The Star put it yesterday, that “at least the ANC is fond of robust debate, so let them debate this one robustly”.
Zapiro ows apology to no one.
Zuma has no dignity.
Could’nt have said it better!
Well done Lindelani, your last comment only had 12 spelling mistakes, as apposed to the 14 and 19 in the previous ones. You are approving by leaps and bounds. If you work really really hard at it, you CAN, one day you could write a paragraph with only about three spelling and grammar errors. Never give up.
Zapiro. you’re the one!
Thanks Tzimen
Someone agrees!!!! One word A-B-E-T
Just watch out for Stalin, it seems Lindelani doesn’t speak for himself.
To: The so called,Dari..!
Your personal hatred against Jacob Zuma is clouding the distinction between real current political issues and the independence of the Judiciary.
I will request all rightful thinking academics and independent thinkers not to even honour your fundamentally marred mental state,which is influenced by the universal migrain you seem to be suffering from.
Thanks but no thanks to your flabbergasted thinking and accusations about Jacob Zuma!!!!
Reading some of these comments I can understand why Mugabe still held in awe by 40% of the voters in Zimbabwe!
Victor
Big words Vic – I must applaud you for that. I am not supprised coming from an obviously brainwashed supporter like yourself. The JZ camp have always been smooth talkers!
I am certainly do not HATE (as you so strongly put it). I feel intensely sorry for a man whose selfish ambitions may cause severe harm to our beloved country.
For his supporters, who seem to see no cause for alarm at the way he dodges the law around every corner, I feel even more sympathy. He may very well lead our country next year but he certainly won’t do so by example…but I guess that won’t people like you.
Dari..I’m glad that you can see that I’m brainwashed. So what I need to hear from you is that do you subscribe to any political party? If yes, which one?
In fact, none at all.
Stalin = lindelani? Just wondering, Dari calls lindelani a fool, and he does not respond, but Stalin does?
Siya
Welcome back. I’ve been wondering what happened to you. You make some good points.
“Has the alliance brought it down and ready to violate it? Is it therefore no longer free and independent?”
The two stage process does make it troublesome: 1. holding her down. 2. violation to possibly happen.
You could say that the cartoon has no time reference point and might point to a possible future scenario, but it would still not explain why it is a two stage process.
One possible way to look at it, to explain that: You could argue that lady justice on the ground is a picture of what a political solution of amnesty would be, she not being able to do her work. Meaning the powerful political allies pulling her down in this specific case (political solution), and Zuma being able to have his way with her (gain freedom from prosecution) as two sides of the same coin (one combinatory act).
In such a scenario she does not represent the justice system as a whole, but as an instance of justice subverted by the powerful. And this as a picture of what a possible future political solution would do: Justice in tact generally, except that the powerful are able to overrule it in extreme cases.
But I acknowledge that this interpretation is very involved and might do for a history course, but would probably not be how the average person would see it, which is also important to some extent.
Z, you seriously believe any of the “One possible way to look at it…” nonsense you wrote?? The average person would think you are smoking some good stuff and be right! What is a justice system that is “generally intact”??? “Extreme cases”, what makes an extreme case? Is it when one of the cronies or someone with enough political clout to rock the boat finds himself on the wrong side of the law?? So the system can selectively work when the powerful fat cats want to bail out one of their own and is unmoveable and just for the rest of us ‘common folk’ in SA! “Generally intact”, what a daft comment. Is there anyone else out there that would be satisfied with a “generally intact” justice system that bails out generally corrupt and incompetent fat cats when the need arises?? Gee, is there that little hope for SA?!
p.s. I had to read it again and quite honestly the more you think about the drivel written here the worse it gets!
This would NOT be fitting in a history lesson but would slot in nicely in “Who’s line is it anyway?”!!! “Involved interpretation” what a load of croc. So now the average person’s opinion is important but only to some extent? South Africans are in for a rough ride!
Z,
An interesting interpretation. I notice that PM is not amused by it. But I think your interpretation has a potential. Seeing the cartoon as depicting some future scenario born of the current political attempts to interfere with the work of the judiciary is reassuring, I must say. That interpretation says we are not there yet but could be/will be. The problem is that there seems to be some unanimity among current affairs following South Africans – including most participants on this blog, and myself- that Zapiro is depicting the present and not the future. That is why I felt that by depicting lady justice helplessly on the ground Zapiro is already in that possible future (according to your interpretation) and not in the present. I guess we are misreading the cartoon.
That was just by way of responding. Now technicalities on the side, in the end what is important is that Zapiro is trying to alert us in a powerful way to the enormity of the threat on our judiciary, and even more alarming, to the source of that threat. You, me and PM and the rest of the bloggers, should hope that the threat never becomes a reality.
Siya
Sane views and what I expressed above is at the end a mere academic exercise, but as you say the core focus is on “shocking” us into seriously looking at what is happening and asking questions about it.
Siya – the ‘present tense’ part of the cartoon lies in lady Justicia being held down helplessly on the ground. The ‘future imperfect tense’ part of it lies in what JZ is going to do. Is he going to properly ‘rape’ the justice system; is he just going to keep on with his ‘procedural masturbation’ (I think someone called his spate of frivolous court applications in this way) to keep out of reach of the long arm of justice until he becomes President; or, is he going to zip up, be a man (and not a mouse like me), and say, “Enough is enough, do your damnest, I will face my day in court and bear the consequences, if any”?
I can assure you that Zapiro is not merely depicting an instance of justice where the ‘powerful politicians’ get their way as a once off to protect their leader. “Justicia” is under threat and it is not as if they are wrestling her to the ground, she is already down and pinned to the ground. The justice system has taken knock after knock and this would simply be the final act. The mere fact that someone can calmy suggest that this is how ‘justice’ could work in future in SA is bizzare and worrying! This depicts a threat to the end to our justice system and not a possible ‘generally intact’ future one!
PM
I would be honoured to make it onto “Whose line is it anyway?” (:
I fear that you will not appreciate it even if I explained myself more thoroughly, but will do so out of courtesy.
If you read whom my post was aimed at, Siya, then you’d have gone back to what Siya wrote which contained some interesting analytical points and being an analytical person myself, I immediately saw other directions in logic which could be explored. As such I have no particular attachment to anything I wrote, being merely a possible scenario, how likely or not it may be and I feel no unction to place any value judgment or probability factor to it.
In the specifics of your complaints:
Is it possible that in reality the courts dish out true justice 99% of the time but that in some cases that 1% get off because of paying off the right people or having the right connections? Is justice generally intact or does it not exist because of 1% (extreme) cases not getting justice meted out? (Try to separate what I’m saying from this specific situation, viewing it generally)
Regarding the average person’s view mattering to some extent:
It was said in the context of interpretation of the cartoon in a context such as a history course where you have may have the following broad categories of views: cartoonist, academics, public.
As such each of those categories of people have views regarding interpretation and though the public perception of it might be completely false in reference to the cartoonist’s intentions, it still matters to some extent in making a value judgment about the cartoon and whether it successfully conveyed its message.
Oi, now that is long winded. It was just a way of looking at the cartoon in reference to Siya’s comments, that’s all, nothing earth shattering.
It seems people have been very vociferous lately…
Anyway, I hope Prof can please upload the version of this cartoon that has appeared in today’s Mail & Guardian (12/09 – 18/09). The new one shows the thugs holding Lady Justice down, they have closed eyes and closed lips. Could this be that they are seeing no evil and speaking no evil; or blindly following and doing what JZ has in mind; or that they are following blindly and trying to show Lady Justice some respect. There is also a differentspeech bubble, replacing good ol’ Julius’, JZ says, “…But just before we start, I just want to say how much we RESPECT you!” If you read the print copy of m&g then you will also find some other interesting, NON-RACIST cartoons by Zapiro. I haven’t found this on Mail & Guardian online. I hope I didn’t go too arty with my views.
Oh give us a break, prof ! When you start setting boundaries to press cartooning, it will be a matter of a very short time before these boundaries tighten and shrink to a very small patch, no bigger than the remaining freedom of speech. It is the grandeur of democrats to endure and defend criticisms they don’t endorse. The good people of SA should be up in arms to support Zapiro. Are they now ? Or will they be sorry later ?
well well, very interesting comments there guys!!
lindelani maseko – You are an uneducated biast fool, just like ZUMA.
Zaphiro for president!!!!
What do you think now with Zuma and his goons intimidating the NPA into backing off.
Our justice system is now raped and not even the CSI can assist us.
I suggest that the Sunday Times place a full page front page cartoon of lady justice after rape has been completed. i.e. huddled and crying with clothes torn.
Please dont for one minute think that I support rape in any form. But Zapiro has put his pen exactly on the point.
These “goons” think that they can subvert, defy and rape the rule of law in this land. What does our constitution stand for if this happens.
Zimbabwe here we come!!!
Shame on you Zuma.
I think the harsh criticisms of Zuma in this cartoon are justified. The metaphor of rape, I believe, is fitting to convey how Zuma treats the justice system. His disregard for some of the fundamental principles of the ANC, and for all the political struggles the country has been through, is analogous, in its horror, to rape.
Accurate, timely and depicted so as to be understood by all.