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	<description>This blog deals with political and social issues in South Africa, mostly from the perspective of Constitutional Law. Written by Pierre de Vos</description>
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		<title>By: sirjay jonson</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23520</link>
		<dc:creator>sirjay jonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reluctant to post in response Prof re Zuma, and have thought for days about it.  Fear of retribution, (thnk NIA, dis-ease and unmentionable ramifications for speaking out.  Self censorship for fear of retribution...) however, here goes.

Zuma is an enigma. (An enigma is a type of riddle generally expressed in metaphorical or allegorical language that requires ingenuity and careful thinking for its solution - Wikipedia).  Its also many other things.

Zuma is, and with all the baggage he carries, South Africa today, and this as I have commented before, is where we find ourselves. Zuma represents how we are being daily swept along by an aply described tsunami to God only knows where.  Malema, the inevitable and dangerous court jester, (think Rasputin) is also South Africa today, and unfortunately our tomorrow.  Are we to lie down like kittens with our bellies exposed when under such threat?

Tomorrow&#039;s hope, today&#039;s hope for all the people, whether they know it or not, is justice and equality under the law via the foundations of Democracy, the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  It is the only life line available.  We must grasp and support it with our last breath, those of us who know its vital importance.

The SADC tribunal has recently made important decisions regarding Zimbabwe.  They admit that they have no power to enforce their decisions.  It is not up to the courts however to enforce decisions, not their role, nor should we expect that from them.  It is up to Government and its various arms of security to do so as expressions and actions of Democratic rule.  When Government does not do so, then we do not have Democracy or the rule of law.

Without enforcement for the rule of law by Government, without acceptance by Government that high Court decisons are the final word, I repeat, we do not have Democracy.

Are we a Democracy?

My prayer for 2010 is courage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reluctant to post in response Prof re Zuma, and have thought for days about it.  Fear of retribution, (thnk NIA, dis-ease and unmentionable ramifications for speaking out.  Self censorship for fear of retribution&#8230;) however, here goes.</p>
<p>Zuma is an enigma. (An enigma is a type of riddle generally expressed in metaphorical or allegorical language that requires ingenuity and careful thinking for its solution &#8211; Wikipedia).  Its also many other things.</p>
<p>Zuma is, and with all the baggage he carries, South Africa today, and this as I have commented before, is where we find ourselves. Zuma represents how we are being daily swept along by an aply described tsunami to God only knows where.  Malema, the inevitable and dangerous court jester, (think Rasputin) is also South Africa today, and unfortunately our tomorrow.  Are we to lie down like kittens with our bellies exposed when under such threat?</p>
<p>Tomorrow&#8217;s hope, today&#8217;s hope for all the people, whether they know it or not, is justice and equality under the law via the foundations of Democracy, the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  It is the only life line available.  We must grasp and support it with our last breath, those of us who know its vital importance.</p>
<p>The SADC tribunal has recently made important decisions regarding Zimbabwe.  They admit that they have no power to enforce their decisions.  It is not up to the courts however to enforce decisions, not their role, nor should we expect that from them.  It is up to Government and its various arms of security to do so as expressions and actions of Democratic rule.  When Government does not do so, then we do not have Democracy or the rule of law.</p>
<p>Without enforcement for the rule of law by Government, without acceptance by Government that high Court decisons are the final word, I repeat, we do not have Democracy.</p>
<p>Are we a Democracy?</p>
<p>My prayer for 2010 is courage.</p>
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		<title>By: MFB</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23517</link>
		<dc:creator>MFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not difficult to create an impression of being a good politician when the media all love you -- or rather, are told to love you. Zuma has had a history of getting places through bootlicking and bombast. However, the essence of this matter in the past was that there were other people to do the actual work. Now, unfortunately, there are none except for the people whom Zuma has chosen, or rather who have been chosen for him, and they are not up to the task of governance.

As a result Zuma has to fall back on telling lies -- his imaginary 500 000 jobs, his mythical 200 000 extra AIDS deaths, and his fantasised 43% cut in carbon dioxide emissions. Of course, Professor de Vos is essentially incapable of understanding matters like this, or perhaps views jobs, death and the destruction of the biosphere as trivial compared with the political victories or defeats of those legal and corporate toadies whom he most admires or detests. But most South Africans are rather worried about such matters.

Above all, if you are dependent on lying, you are also dependent on the press and the pundits for covering up your lies, which makes you vulnerable. Meanwhile, if you have appointed incompetents (Gordhan, Davies) and crooks (Nzimande, Hogan, Ndebele) to run the government, you will not be able to generate accomplishments which can enable you to sidestep the media, as Mbeki could for almost a decade. 

This is basically the problem; however much Prof. De Vos drools over Zuma, Zuma&#039;s actual performance will decline continually until he becomes a liability to the ruling class, at which point he will be dumped. But by then he will have done immense damage. The secret is to stop devoting all your attention to drivelling, and instead pay attention to what is really happening. But that is a difficult thing, and indeed, these days, rather unpatriotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not difficult to create an impression of being a good politician when the media all love you &#8212; or rather, are told to love you. Zuma has had a history of getting places through bootlicking and bombast. However, the essence of this matter in the past was that there were other people to do the actual work. Now, unfortunately, there are none except for the people whom Zuma has chosen, or rather who have been chosen for him, and they are not up to the task of governance.</p>
<p>As a result Zuma has to fall back on telling lies &#8212; his imaginary 500 000 jobs, his mythical 200 000 extra AIDS deaths, and his fantasised 43% cut in carbon dioxide emissions. Of course, Professor de Vos is essentially incapable of understanding matters like this, or perhaps views jobs, death and the destruction of the biosphere as trivial compared with the political victories or defeats of those legal and corporate toadies whom he most admires or detests. But most South Africans are rather worried about such matters.</p>
<p>Above all, if you are dependent on lying, you are also dependent on the press and the pundits for covering up your lies, which makes you vulnerable. Meanwhile, if you have appointed incompetents (Gordhan, Davies) and crooks (Nzimande, Hogan, Ndebele) to run the government, you will not be able to generate accomplishments which can enable you to sidestep the media, as Mbeki could for almost a decade. </p>
<p>This is basically the problem; however much Prof. De Vos drools over Zuma, Zuma&#8217;s actual performance will decline continually until he becomes a liability to the ruling class, at which point he will be dumped. But by then he will have done immense damage. The secret is to stop devoting all your attention to drivelling, and instead pay attention to what is really happening. But that is a difficult thing, and indeed, these days, rather unpatriotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23515</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dworky - how&#039;s this for good PR.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&amp;click_id=13&amp;art_id=vn20091226223310236C838808</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dworky &#8211; how&#8217;s this for good PR.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&#038;click_id=13&#038;art_id=vn20091226223310236C838808" rel="nofollow">http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&#038;click_id=13&#038;art_id=vn20091226223310236C838808</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23514</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dworky,

When Shaik said &quot;Bring on Mbeki and his boys&quot; or thereabouts, I thought he was being his arrogant self.

If he is pardoned, that takes an entirely different context - almost that he had the ability to turn our entire system on its head once JZ took high office.

Of course a pardon, if granted will be accompanied by all kinds of euphemisms, but the bottom line is that our President, our nation and our entire criminal justice system, is subservient to this man.

The ANC is the most powerful political organisation in South Africa, in all of Africa and maybe in all of the developing world, even large parts of the developed world.

It is often said that nobody is more powerful than the ANC - this pardon will disprove that. Shaik will have been established as more powerful than and above the ANC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dworky,</p>
<p>When Shaik said &#8220;Bring on Mbeki and his boys&#8221; or thereabouts, I thought he was being his arrogant self.</p>
<p>If he is pardoned, that takes an entirely different context &#8211; almost that he had the ability to turn our entire system on its head once JZ took high office.</p>
<p>Of course a pardon, if granted will be accompanied by all kinds of euphemisms, but the bottom line is that our President, our nation and our entire criminal justice system, is subservient to this man.</p>
<p>The ANC is the most powerful political organisation in South Africa, in all of Africa and maybe in all of the developing world, even large parts of the developed world.</p>
<p>It is often said that nobody is more powerful than the ANC &#8211; this pardon will disprove that. Shaik will have been established as more powerful than and above the ANC.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23513</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Maggs

Normally, you are right.

Here, you cynicism saddens.

Have you perchance been recruited by racist white liberals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Maggs</p>
<p>Normally, you are right.</p>
<p>Here, you cynicism saddens.</p>
<p>Have you perchance been recruited by racist white liberals?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23512</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 05:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean says:
December 23, 2009 at 20:04 pm

Hey Maggs,

Also, remember good old Mo Shaik and were he is now. The Shaiks’ either have or will soon have more dirt on the ANC elite than J. Egar Hoover had on American Presidents, lot more technologies to use these days.
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Whatever it is, it sure seems that President Zuma is likely to pardon Shaik.

It may even be a &quot;gesture of goodwill&quot; together with some &quot;intolerables&quot; - de Kok and the Hani killers.

That may be a new year gift to a democratic South Africa to celebrate our respect for the rule of law and our constitutional democracy.

All that so the untouchables may walk free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean says:<br />
December 23, 2009 at 20:04 pm</p>
<p>Hey Maggs,</p>
<p>Also, remember good old Mo Shaik and were he is now. The Shaiks’ either have or will soon have more dirt on the ANC elite than J. Egar Hoover had on American Presidents, lot more technologies to use these days.<br />
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Whatever it is, it sure seems that President Zuma is likely to pardon Shaik.</p>
<p>It may even be a &#8220;gesture of goodwill&#8221; together with some &#8220;intolerables&#8221; &#8211; de Kok and the Hani killers.</p>
<p>That may be a new year gift to a democratic South Africa to celebrate our respect for the rule of law and our constitutional democracy.</p>
<p>All that so the untouchables may walk free.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23495</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
December 23, 2009 at 21:58 pm

&quot;As Cmd Malema has reminded us coloureds, whites and indians will never be reliable allies in the struggle to transform this country&quot;.

Hey Dworky, stop being a White Messiah.

Malema does not need the permission of a White Messiah to think.

He will think when he wants to.

Other times he will not - and it&#039;s his absolute right not to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:<br />
December 23, 2009 at 21:58 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;As Cmd Malema has reminded us coloureds, whites and indians will never be reliable allies in the struggle to transform this country&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hey Dworky, stop being a White Messiah.</p>
<p>Malema does not need the permission of a White Messiah to think.</p>
<p>He will think when he wants to.</p>
<p>Other times he will not &#8211; and it&#8217;s his absolute right not to!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23490</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Maggs

I regret that you have bought into the mythology that the ANC is author of its own misfortune in the WC.

True, there was unfortunate intra-party sniping.

But that aside: How can we expect the ANC to keeping winning in any area that does not have a clear African majority?  As Cmd Malema has reminded us coloureds, whites and indians will never be reliable allies in the struggle to transform this country.  It is because the racist white liberals were able to seduce the coloureds with their sneaky &quot;Swart Gevaar&quot; that the Botox Queen now runs the show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Maggs</p>
<p>I regret that you have bought into the mythology that the ANC is author of its own misfortune in the WC.</p>
<p>True, there was unfortunate intra-party sniping.</p>
<p>But that aside: How can we expect the ANC to keeping winning in any area that does not have a clear African majority?  As Cmd Malema has reminded us coloureds, whites and indians will never be reliable allies in the struggle to transform this country.  It is because the racist white liberals were able to seduce the coloureds with their sneaky &#8220;Swart Gevaar&#8221; that the Botox Queen now runs the show!</p>
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		<title>By: maanskyn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; .@pierredevos on Zuma&#8217;s weakness and his besmirching of his office</title>
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		<dc:creator>maanskyn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; .@pierredevos on Zuma&#8217;s weakness and his besmirching of his office</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is very difficult not to conclude that the appointment of Simelane was Zuma’s insurance policy to prevent any further legal troubles. If the DA application to have the decision to drop charges against the President reviewed, is successful, Simelane will make sure the President is not prosecuted. By purporting to appoint Simelane, our President did not act in the interest of the country but in his own naked self-interest and in doing so he acted unlawfully and besmirched the office of the Presidency  via constitutionallyspeaking.co.za [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It is very difficult not to conclude that the appointment of Simelane was Zuma’s insurance policy to prevent any further legal troubles. If the DA application to have the decision to drop charges against the President reviewed, is successful, Simelane will make sure the President is not prosecuted. By purporting to appoint Simelane, our President did not act in the interest of the country but in his own naked self-interest and in doing so he acted unlawfully and besmirched the office of the Presidency  via constitutionallyspeaking.co.za [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JV SL</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/president-chameleon/#comment-23488</link>
		<dc:creator>JV SL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COME ON PROF!!!! How come you didn&#039;t read Mandela&#039;s Bible, or is it that you are AA-Prof? Even the &quot;Little Tank Engine&quot; can &quot;understand&quot; what a leader has to do!!! Look at what Obama, Bush before and Blair did. Why can&#039;t we do the same? We are historically entitled to do it too....Results??? What are you talking about??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COME ON PROF!!!! How come you didn&#8217;t read Mandela&#8217;s Bible, or is it that you are AA-Prof? Even the &#8220;Little Tank Engine&#8221; can &#8220;understand&#8221; what a leader has to do!!! Look at what Obama, Bush before and Blair did. Why can&#8217;t we do the same? We are historically entitled to do it too&#8230;.Results??? What are you talking about??</p>
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