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		<title>By: Gwebecimele</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-31200</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwebecimele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a difficult question to answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a difficult question to answer?</p>
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		<title>By: Gwebecimele</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-31170</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwebecimele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Prof or anyone who can assist.

Is it compulsory for a Judge to go through hundreds of pages of a judgement for several days? Is it not possible to summarise a judgement into about 10-15 pages and have a &quot;Reasons Document&quot; that can be distributed later or attached to the Summary Judgement. I suspect it is a waste of time to put aside number of days just to read a judgement that both parties will still have time to study and respond to at a later stage.

I guess Judges are just enjoying the attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Prof or anyone who can assist.</p>
<p>Is it compulsory for a Judge to go through hundreds of pages of a judgement for several days? Is it not possible to summarise a judgement into about 10-15 pages and have a &#8220;Reasons Document&#8221; that can be distributed later or attached to the Summary Judgement. I suspect it is a waste of time to put aside number of days just to read a judgement that both parties will still have time to study and respond to at a later stage.</p>
<p>I guess Judges are just enjoying the attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwebecimele</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-31159</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwebecimele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE MIGHT BE HEADING FOR ANOTHER NICHOLSON MOMENT;

See below;


The former police chief and senior Interpol officer also faces charges of defeating the ends of justice.

He has pleaded not guilty and the State has relied heavily testimony from Agliotti to convict Selebi.

Listing a number of issues the court had to rule on, Joffe also said it had to be determined what role former national prosecuting authority chiefs Vusi Pikoli and Bululani Ngckuka played in the prosecution of Selebi.

Joffe ruled that a DVD recording by members of the Directorate for Special Operations (DSO) was admissible as evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE MIGHT BE HEADING FOR ANOTHER NICHOLSON MOMENT;</p>
<p>See below;</p>
<p>The former police chief and senior Interpol officer also faces charges of defeating the ends of justice.</p>
<p>He has pleaded not guilty and the State has relied heavily testimony from Agliotti to convict Selebi.</p>
<p>Listing a number of issues the court had to rule on, Joffe also said it had to be determined what role former national prosecuting authority chiefs Vusi Pikoli and Bululani Ngckuka played in the prosecution of Selebi.</p>
<p>Joffe ruled that a DVD recording by members of the Directorate for Special Operations (DSO) was admissible as evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-25982</link>
		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the great legal minds on this blog, can somebody please tell me what Selebi is supposed to be guilty of?  The only case the NPA seemed to have is Glen Agliotti, a desperate man trying to stay out of prison, and proven to be a criminal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the great legal minds on this blog, can somebody please tell me what Selebi is supposed to be guilty of?  The only case the NPA seemed to have is Glen Agliotti, a desperate man trying to stay out of prison, and proven to be a criminal!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-25963</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pierre De Vos says: 
February 27, 2010 at 17:00 pm


The Barnard case is here http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZALC/2010/10.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pierre De Vos says:<br />
February 27, 2010 at 17:00 pm</p>
<p>The Barnard case is here <a href="http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZALC/2010/10.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZALC/2010/10.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: sirjay jonson</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-25942</link>
		<dc:creator>sirjay jonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies: Liberal-ty should have read: liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies: Liberal-ty should have read: liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: sirjay jonson</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-25941</link>
		<dc:creator>sirjay jonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggs: thanks for the article at http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/26/liberals.atheists.sex.intelligence/index.html

However, as quoted: &quot;aligning oneself with &#039;unconventional&#039; philosophies such as liberalism or atheism may be ways to communicate to everyone that you&#039;re pretty smart&quot;, is juvenile y in my view.

&quot;&#039;unconventional&#039; philosophies&quot;... what crap!

So many ways to attack those who claim to be liberals by those with lazy thinking..

Yet it is liberals who care about liberal-ty, meaning all equal under the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggs: thanks for the article at <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/26/liberals.atheists.sex.intelligence/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/26/liberals.atheists.sex.intelligence/index.html</a></p>
<p>However, as quoted: &#8220;aligning oneself with &#8216;unconventional&#8217; philosophies such as liberalism or atheism may be ways to communicate to everyone that you&#8217;re pretty smart&#8221;, is juvenile y in my view.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;unconventional&#8217; philosophies&#8221;&#8230; what crap!</p>
<p>So many ways to attack those who claim to be liberals by those with lazy thinking..</p>
<p>Yet it is liberals who care about liberal-ty, meaning all equal under the law.</p>
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		<title>By: sirjay jonson</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-25940</link>
		<dc:creator>sirjay jonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As is our Prof!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As is our Prof!</p>
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		<title>By: sirjay jonson</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-25939</link>
		<dc:creator>sirjay jonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Ramphele is a rare breath of fresh air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Ramphele is a rare breath of fresh air.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs Naidu</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/selebis-zuma-option/#comment-25938</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs Naidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
February 28, 2010 at 14:48 pm

That&#039;s hardly likely to make an overall impact.

The primary determinant, for &quot;some among us&quot;, re that which is wrong, even bad, in our society, is race.

It&#039;s what makes Lesetja Kganyago an almost faceless DG of Finance (we do know that he wears bold coloured ties) vs the highly competent and visible Dr Ramos notwithstanding the seamless transition, or Andrew Coleman a legend at SAA vs the failure that was Khaya Ngqula or that which made the recently reported nepotism at Vodacom relatively irrelevant or the middle page coverage of Tannebaum and Graeme Minne and and and ...

Corruption, incompetence, greed, criminality is outrageous and unacceptable when Black people are the culprits.

Otherwise it&#039;s just not nice when people get caught out, eh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:<br />
February 28, 2010 at 14:48 pm</p>
<p>That&#8217;s hardly likely to make an overall impact.</p>
<p>The primary determinant, for &#8220;some among us&#8221;, re that which is wrong, even bad, in our society, is race.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what makes Lesetja Kganyago an almost faceless DG of Finance (we do know that he wears bold coloured ties) vs the highly competent and visible Dr Ramos notwithstanding the seamless transition, or Andrew Coleman a legend at SAA vs the failure that was Khaya Ngqula or that which made the recently reported nepotism at Vodacom relatively irrelevant or the middle page coverage of Tannebaum and Graeme Minne and and and &#8230;</p>
<p>Corruption, incompetence, greed, criminality is outrageous and unacceptable when Black people are the culprits.</p>
<p>Otherwise it&#8217;s just not nice when people get caught out, eh!</p>
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