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		<title>By: Zoo Keeper</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32440</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoo Keeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Malusi Gicgaba is using porn and the fact that children &quot;might be able to view porn&quot; as his excuse to introduce internet filters to deny adults their guilty pleasures.

His latest statement is that we must emulate China, the United Arab Emirates and Singapore in deciding what content local internet users can view. What incredible role models of freedom those jurisdictions are!

So we have an attempt to control the press, the introduction of internet filters to control what we view (don&#039;t even think they&#039;ll limit this to porn), the launching of a newspaper and working documents that state the media and press must be controlled and &quot;transformed&quot; into praise-singers.

Whatever freedoms the ANC stood for is looking deceased. Those blind followers take note - this is how the National Party went (no wonder Pik Botha et al joined the ANC).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Malusi Gicgaba is using porn and the fact that children &#8220;might be able to view porn&#8221; as his excuse to introduce internet filters to deny adults their guilty pleasures.</p>
<p>His latest statement is that we must emulate China, the United Arab Emirates and Singapore in deciding what content local internet users can view. What incredible role models of freedom those jurisdictions are!</p>
<p>So we have an attempt to control the press, the introduction of internet filters to control what we view (don&#8217;t even think they&#8217;ll limit this to porn), the launching of a newspaper and working documents that state the media and press must be controlled and &#8220;transformed&#8221; into praise-singers.</p>
<p>Whatever freedoms the ANC stood for is looking deceased. Those blind followers take note &#8211; this is how the National Party went (no wonder Pik Botha et al joined the ANC).</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32020</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here. Only mischief one could possibly see being addressed is the mischievious media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here. Only mischief one could possibly see being addressed is the mischievious media.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoo Keeper</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32019</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoo Keeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett

You mean besides protecting the Executive from public scrutiny? 

In that case no, can&#039;t see anything: just another means of protecting vested interests and covering up the mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett</p>
<p>You mean besides protecting the Executive from public scrutiny? </p>
<p>In that case no, can&#8217;t see anything: just another means of protecting vested interests and covering up the mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Lurker</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32018</link>
		<dc:creator>Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoo keeper said :
&quot;It would appear that more and more legislation is being drafted to protect the State against the citizen and not the other way around as it should be in a constitutional democracy.&quot;

Too true, as a citzen I don&#039;t see how this bill will help me make a more informed decision at the next election, which is i guess the whole point.

@ Hamster, whistle blowers tend to be treated as villans rather than heros, (Vavi springs to mind, as does the prof who commented on our water situation ) which is hardly encouraging to them, and an example to others

@PdV thanks for all your insights / topics I find them keen and thought provoking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoo keeper said :<br />
&#8220;It would appear that more and more legislation is being drafted to protect the State against the citizen and not the other way around as it should be in a constitutional democracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too true, as a citzen I don&#8217;t see how this bill will help me make a more informed decision at the next election, which is i guess the whole point.</p>
<p>@ Hamster, whistle blowers tend to be treated as villans rather than heros, (Vavi springs to mind, as does the prof who commented on our water situation ) which is hardly encouraging to them, and an example to others</p>
<p>@PdV thanks for all your insights / topics I find them keen and thought provoking.</p>
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		<title>By: abidam</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32015</link>
		<dc:creator>abidam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Christine, give them hell!

There are always two sides to a story;

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2010/07/22/worker-fired-for-sex-change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Christine, give them hell!</p>
<p>There are always two sides to a story;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2010/07/22/worker-fired-for-sex-change" rel="nofollow">http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2010/07/22/worker-fired-for-sex-change</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32014</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoo Keeper, have you been able to spot the mischief that this Bill purports to address?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoo Keeper, have you been able to spot the mischief that this Bill purports to address?</p>
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		<title>By: Zoo Keeper</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32013</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoo Keeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keichel is fantastically naive to believe that the Bill has enough safeguards.

There is no disinfectant like sunshine and the fewer secrets a country keeps the safer its citizens.

I cannot see how limiting media freedom is in any way constitutional. This is the thin end of the wedge and laws such of these should not see the light of day.

Brett already has his hands full with an Apartheid offspring in the FCA. It would appear that more and more legislation is being drafted to protect the State against the citizen and not the other way around as it should be in a constitutional democracy.

There is nothing you can say which will convince me that this Bill (and other legislation of this type) is justified or necessary. I cannot fathom how S36 can be used to protect State interests over the interests of the citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keichel is fantastically naive to believe that the Bill has enough safeguards.</p>
<p>There is no disinfectant like sunshine and the fewer secrets a country keeps the safer its citizens.</p>
<p>I cannot see how limiting media freedom is in any way constitutional. This is the thin end of the wedge and laws such of these should not see the light of day.</p>
<p>Brett already has his hands full with an Apartheid offspring in the FCA. It would appear that more and more legislation is being drafted to protect the State against the citizen and not the other way around as it should be in a constitutional democracy.</p>
<p>There is nothing you can say which will convince me that this Bill (and other legislation of this type) is justified or necessary. I cannot fathom how S36 can be used to protect State interests over the interests of the citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: AN Leigh</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32003</link>
		<dc:creator>AN Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a legal person but it seems to me that what this bill seeks to achieve is to &#039;switch positions&#039; with the press. Currently the press enjoy the freedom of being presumed innocent as they &#039;ask&#039; questions of the state who are being made to squirm (and, rightly, are &#039;assumed&#039; to be &#039;up to something&#039; - as if guilty - again, often correctly so) as they &quot;please explain&quot;their way out of their actions.

With this bill it seems as if the press is going to be assumed to be guilty - of publishing &#039;state secrets&#039; and &#039;endangering the state&#039; and thus must expend its energy on defense and &quot;please explain&quot; how they got hold of this &#039;truth&#039;.

A neat bit of WWW (the favorite pastime viewing of our jaded &#039;tanies&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a legal person but it seems to me that what this bill seeks to achieve is to &#8216;switch positions&#8217; with the press. Currently the press enjoy the freedom of being presumed innocent as they &#8216;ask&#8217; questions of the state who are being made to squirm (and, rightly, are &#8216;assumed&#8217; to be &#8216;up to something&#8217; &#8211; as if guilty &#8211; again, often correctly so) as they &#8220;please explain&#8221;their way out of their actions.</p>
<p>With this bill it seems as if the press is going to be assumed to be guilty &#8211; of publishing &#8216;state secrets&#8217; and &#8216;endangering the state&#8217; and thus must expend its energy on defense and &#8220;please explain&#8221; how they got hold of this &#8216;truth&#8217;.</p>
<p>A neat bit of WWW (the favorite pastime viewing of our jaded &#8216;tanies&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-32000</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Criminal Procedure Act is also supposed to protect our privacy by prohibiting unlawful searches. Every gun owner knows that individuals need statutory privacy protections including protection of our informational privacy. Half a million gun owners suffered illegal home invasions to inspect their safes, and suffered sharing of information about what firearms one has in the privacy of ones home with armed robbers and Gun Free SA. This Bill protects the state. Not individuals.

The effect on the media is going to be that anyone investigating any whistle-blowing, or corruption, or looking at documentary proof of mismanagement, is going to have to engage in a level of examination and self-sensorship not seen since the states of emergency.

IMHO the conviction of Jackass Selebi has sent shivers down ANC spines and they are not going to back of this Bill easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Criminal Procedure Act is also supposed to protect our privacy by prohibiting unlawful searches. Every gun owner knows that individuals need statutory privacy protections including protection of our informational privacy. Half a million gun owners suffered illegal home invasions to inspect their safes, and suffered sharing of information about what firearms one has in the privacy of ones home with armed robbers and Gun Free SA. This Bill protects the state. Not individuals.</p>
<p>The effect on the media is going to be that anyone investigating any whistle-blowing, or corruption, or looking at documentary proof of mismanagement, is going to have to engage in a level of examination and self-sensorship not seen since the states of emergency.</p>
<p>IMHO the conviction of Jackass Selebi has sent shivers down ANC spines and they are not going to back of this Bill easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sleepwalking-through-an-empty-life/#comment-31999</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Criminal Procedure Act is also supposed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Criminal Procedure Act is also supposed</p>
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