In 1963, the apartheid Parliament rushed through the General Laws Amendment Act, Number 37 of 1963. The Act applied retroactively to June 27th 1962 and was mainly aimed at ensuring that the ANC leaders arrested at Lilliesleaf Farm in Rivonia could be held in detention indefinitely or until they could be charged.
Under this General Law Amendment Act, the security police, also known as the Special Branch, were given the authority to arrest anyone they suspected of being engaged or involved in any act against the State and to hold them incommunicado for 90 days at a time. The Act was often used to detain people for longer periods. Detainees would be “released” for a few seconds before they were “re-arrested” and detained for another 90 days.
When this process of being released and then re-arrested proved to be too cumbersome, the government introduced and passed the 180-Day Detention Act (the Criminal Procedure Amendment Act, Number 96 of 1965). Eventually, this 180-day law would be replaced yet again by the Terrorism Act, Number 83 of 1967, which allowed the government to detain individuals indefinitely until all questions had been answered satisfactorily or no further purpose could be achieved by holding the detainees.
Thankfully, section 12(1)(b) of the South African Constitution now prohibits anyone from being detained without trial. We do not live in apartheid South Africa anymore and we all have rights now. The police are not allowed to detain or torture us. This means, as a general rule, a detained person must be charged or released at his or her first appearance in court. In terms of section 35 of the Bill of Rights (read with section 50 of the Criminal Procedure Act) if no charge is brought, the person must be released or may “be informed of the reason for his or her further detention”.
This implies that the Bill of Rights does allows for an unspecified period of detention of uncharged detainees – but only in the most exceptional circumstances. Where a terror suspect who might have planned blowing up the Union Building or assassinating the President, is arrested and charges are still being investigated against that suspect, he might be detained. However, the detained person retains the right to bail and the right to challenge the lawfulness of the detention. This will entitle a person to approach a court at any time to apply for trial or contest the lawfulness of the detention. Where prosecutors determine that there is no case against a detained person, it is illegal to continue detaining that person.
In the light of the above, the arrest and (at the time of writing) continued detention of Sunday Times journalist Mzilikazi wa Afrika seem quite shocking. The arrest and detention (somewhere in Mpumalanga) of wa Africa raise many serious questions about the commitment of the current government to uphold the rights of citizens and the possible abuse of the police to cover up corruption and intimidate the media.
At this point, one does not have sufficient information to know for certain that wa Africa is being held illegally in detention without trial – as alleged by the Sunday Times in a statement posted on heir website – and whether the Hawks have unlawfully arrested him for an ulterior purpose. Whether he is a thoroughly bad man who will one day be convicted of the most despicable crimes, or whether he is an innocent victim of the most flagrant abuse of state power, is not yet known.
Nevertheless, the fact that wa Africa co-wrote an article alleging that Police Commissioner Bheki Cele (what is it with South African Police Commissioners and the law?) signed a R500 million lease for the Police to rent a new building without following tender procedures, must make every reasonable South African very suspicious indeed. This ongoing saga raises several serious and disturbing questions.
Is it true – as reported by the media – that wa Africa was arrested for fraud because he was in possession of a fabricated letter – faxed to the Sunday Times – purporting to show that the Premier of Mpumalanga intended to resign? If this is the case, then wa Africa should never have been arrested as it is not a crime in South Africa to be in possession of a fraudulent letter.
Is it true – once again as reported in the media – that this morning prosecutors met with wa Africa’s lawyers and the prosecutors decided that he had no case to answer, but that the police then refused to release him? Is it further true that the police “held further discussions” with the prosecutors, who then decided to charge him after all? If this is so, why would prosecutors who had decided there was no case to answer change their minds? Was there unlawful interference in the work of the NPA and was unlawful pressure placed on prosecutors to have wa Africa prosecuted despite the fact that they do not believe that he has a case to answer.
Why was wa Africa arrested at all and why, at the time of writing, is he still being detained? It is extremely unusual for a suspect in an ordinary fraud case who has arranged with police to meet with them and who poses no flight risk and no immediate risk to the community, to be arrested and detained for two days without appearing in court. On the available evidence, at the very least, this arrest appears unnecessarily high-handed.
Is it pure co-incidence that wa Africa was arrested in this high-handed and seemingly unnecessary manner a day after the Police Commissioner Bheki Cele referred to him as a “very shady journalist” for co-writing the article in which it was hinted that Cele is corrupt? Even more bizarrely, this happened in the same week in which the previous police commissioner was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment for corruption. Someone a bit more suspicious than myself might wonder whether Cele had learnt his lesson from Selebi and was taking pre-emptive measures to avoid Selebi’s fate.
Hopefully, all these questions will be answered in a satisfactorily manner and it will turn out that the justifiable fears raised by the arrest and the subsequent detention of wa Africa were entirely misplaced. For the sake of our country and our future, I sincerely hope that this is the case. It would be rather scary once again to live in a country where the police does not act in terms of the law and where individuals who are critical of the state can be detained without trial.
To be honest, for the first time since we became free in 1994, I am running a bit scared.
The exercise of handcuffing a co-operating detainee by a large contigent of police when such person is unarmed and undangerous is antithetical to the sort of State based on such a wonderful Constitution as we have.
The police have to be reigned in and made to understand that ours is a constitutional state, not a police one. The brute force was totally unjustified.
The continuity of the detention beyond the period as stipulated in the Constitution even more painful and constitutes flagrant disregard of our sacrosanct Constitution.
It would seem this is an unlawful arrest and detention by ill-intentioned police. There are many ways of securing a witness to court other than melo-dramatic arrests of harmless people. This will not pass unexplained.
We should not however in our critical disposition to this regretable event become hysterical and inelegant in our necessary robust criticism of our government.
The facts leading to the arrest will come to the fore. Let us not advance poorly reasoned, but enticing insinuations. It would be a said day if the arrest would relate to his critical investigative journalism.
Puhhhleeeze!
I was arrested without any arrest warrant on 18 July 2007 by Insp. Christian and detained for 33 days at Pollsmoor, without any appearance in court.
That was in response to a ‘crimen injuria’ charge filed against me by Hon. Patricia de Lille.
My brother’s lawyer who attempted to get hold of the alleged arrest warrant was told that it is ‘top secret/classified’. I have never been provided with that ‘arrest warrant’, cause it does not exist.
Not one journalist, or editor considered the issue of an illegal arrest, to be a matter of concern. Cause you see us common people and activists on issues that are not of interest to the elite, can be arrested without any arrest warrant and detained without so much as a squeek of objection.
When Dr. Brad Blanton of the USA filed an affidavit of objection in the HIgh Court, and I contacted 140 of SA elite to enquire whether they had so much as just a comment — just a comment — that they object to my illegal arrest and 33 days of detention without any bail hearing in Pollsmoor; not one had any objection!
That includes Ms. Helen Zille, and 30 Media editors!
When I informed Prof. Pierre de Vos… he deleted the comment!
That was not the only time I have been arrested without an arrest warrant!
The other time I was arrested without a valid arrest warrant was at my work on 22 July 2002. The policeman informed me I had been arrested cause I ‘was too vocal’ (in afrikaans) about certain criticisms. Again I was denied any appearance in a court of law, and I was carted off to Lenteguer, to arrive in the middle of the night. The official who admitted me, refused because it was so irregular, the police arriving in the middle of the night with dodgy documents, she refused to admit me. She had to get authorisation from the chief forensic psychologist, or she refused.
At lentegeur the chief forensic psychologist threatened me she would have me detained forever, by having me certified, as she said ‘because I can’. Her knowledge of psychology was shocking! When I required the chief forensic psychologist to provide me a with a copy of the admittance documentation and J38, she refused. I informed her I would no longer cooperate in her insanity experiment, until she provided me with legit documents, and I was discharging myself. She refused to let me go. That night i jumped out of widnow and escaped. I hitchhiked into capetown and the next day to Pretoria where I went to see the US Embassy.
I saw an African American US Marine, who went through the documentation they were attmepting to certify me with, and he was outraged. He said ‘thats like trying to arrest gandhi’. He picked up the phone to call the forensic psychologist to enquire what their justifications were and left a message.
Well then the report that I was allegedly crazy was altered by Chief Forensic Psych, to state I am very intelligent. Ha ha…
Long long story….
Point….
Arrests without warrants ain’t nothing new at all..
Detention without a court appearance is nothing new at all…
All of this fuss when this has been going on for long long time…, for the common people, the minority activists.. the unimportant proles… the difference is now it is someone who is ‘important’, someone who is a member of the elite…
What does it take before some people start standing up for the rule of law, for everyone, white and black, left and right, pink and green, far left and far right, white bigot or black bigot, rich or poor????
What don’t you people understand? That standing up for someone you agree with to be treated in accordance with the rule of law is not some mission of mercy!
That’s not endorsing the rule of law; thats just a diluted form of legal mobjustice! Your little group deserves to get their rights, but all other groups can go to hell, arrest them, detain them.. and your little groups don’t say a word!
Standing up for someone whom you can’t stand, who is your enemy, to be treated in accordance with the rule of law; to object to his/her illegal arrest and detention!
Now when you do that — then you are a constitutional republican!
Thanks for the wonderful prose but hights the plight of the people. De vos must establish an institute for legal representation of the poor. We will all join forces.
It’s gonna be a dark week ahead!
We live in truly frightening times and we should all be very, very worried.
But at least we have people like “White refugee” for some comic relief in between! Poor Lara, maybe the aliens have infiltrated the government? We’ll know it’s really bad when the new government bans the new “V”…
Newsflash!!!! Sunday Times lawyer Eric van den Berg: Judge orders release of Mzilikazi we Africa. Scandal of the first order. Cele has a lot to answer for.
Pierre De Vos says:
August 5, 2010 at 21:20 pm
Good heavens!
What the heck is going on???????????????????
It seems that the Hawks are treating “our sacrosanct Constitution” as Ishmael calls it, like some bits of toilet paper!
Press freedom is, no doubt, of paramount importance. The ANC itself struggled to bring press freedom to South Africa. But it is a right that must be exercised responsibly.
Reactionary untransformed white tendencies continue to undermine our National Democratic Revolution. These ruthless liberals deploy coconuts and askaris like Mr Afrika as agents to further their sinister counter-revolutionary objectives!
Thanks a lot.
As you say, Pierre – today was the first time -ever- since 1994 that I started singing to myself Michelle Shocked’s line “the secret to a long life is knowing when it’s time to go” …
I have been patriotic, optimistic, and – indeed – for the first three elections, voted ANC. I fear we have come to a tipping point.
If this is how the future is going to be, I’m packing it in.
You only getting scared NOW, Pierre ?
Guess you must live with blinkers on.
Glad to oblige kanrokitoff…
But no need for any pity thanks! If Insp. Christian walked up to my front door tomorrow, I’d listen to what he had to say, and his point of view, and have no problem forgiving him, for my own benefit.
Same with all the others. Its a radical revolution of consciousness… a different way to live life from.. and to some that is indeed crazy and frightening.. how can you refuse to hate?
So, if thinking me crazy, helps you to avoid confronting particular realities.. glad to be of service..!
As Peggy Noonan my ol boss writes..
“When the world turns crazy the crazy turn pro.”
!!
White Refugee is a Blog Troll: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blog%20Troll
“The Mpumalanga government has been accused in papers filed in the Labour Court of signing a deal to buy a building in Nelspruit for R458-million — more than four times its market value.
According to Priscilla Nkwinika, suspended head of Mpumalanga’s public works department, the deal was driven by Mpumalanga Premier David Mabuza. …
The agents, who asked not to be named, also confirmed that aspects of the purchase agreement were “highly irregular”, including the stipulation that the down payment of R100-million “need not be held in trust by the seller’s conveyancer pending registration of transfer, but may be used by the seller with immediate effect as it may deem fit in its sole and absolute discretion”.
The offer also stipulated that the balance of the amount owed would be paid in R100-million instalments on or before March 31 each year. This money would also “not be held in trust by the seller’s conveyancer but may be used by the seller upon payment with immediate effect as it may deem fit in its sole and absolute discretion”. …
Although the properties were bought between 2005 and 2007 for a combined total of R5,4-million, total bonds taken from Investec Bank to purchase them amounted to R80-million.
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2010-08-06-mabuza-and-the-r450m-building
Eish!
Prof: What does the constitution say about detention? I tend to agree with White Refugee the constitution seems only to apply to some. I know many people who have been detained without being charged and staying in prison for months.
Just a stupid question:
The Judge yesterday said: “The freedom of the individual is a constitutionally protected value and so is due process,” and “In the constitutional state, the Constitution reigns supreme. I am of the view that justice will be served if he is released. It is unlikely that a few hours of freedom should cause irrevocable harm to the state’s case. If we err, we err on the side of freedom.”
Then why is it that drunk drivers are detained overnight? If a sober driver picks them up from the police station why not release them as also in this case a few hours of freedom should cause irrevocable harm to the state’s case.
Dear Pr. de Vos,
I am a bit surprised that you have not mentioned art. 35 (d) specifically, stating that anyone arrested has the right “
Dear Pr. de Vos,
I am a bit surprised that you have not mentioned art. 35 (d) specifically, stating that anyone arrested has the right to be brought before a court no later than 48 hours after the arrest or, if this is outside ordinary court hours, at the end of the first court date thereafter. And that at this court hearing either to be released, charged or explained why continued arrest is necessary, cf. 35 (e).
Kind regards
Ricky
ISHMAEL MALALE says:
August 5, 2010 at 19:26 pm
The exercise of handcuffing a co-operating detainee by a large contigent of police when such person is unarmed and undangerous is antithetical to the sort of State based on such a wonderful Constitution as we have.
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Pictures of Mzilikazi Wa Africa being led out of the Avusa building in Rosebank on Wednesday by members of the Hawks do not show him handcuffed.
http://www.mg.co.za/
By The way how did Wa Africa have a lawyer conveniently walking with him at the time of his arrest? I hope this is a sign of the efficiency of the profession theses days.
Thomas says:
August 6, 2010 at 7:41 am
Hey Thomas,
It’s not clear if the guy was “cooperating” – according to Musa Zondi on 702 this morning Wa Afrika was asked ten days ago to meet with the Hawks. He did not.
The issue is the regard (or lack of it) for our Constitution shown by the very people who we expect to uphold it.
One should keep in mind that there could be more behind this story than meets the eye. It is hard to believe that the political head of SAPS would be so utterly unprofessional as to make a revenge arrest.
@ Maggs
“The issue is the regard (or lack of it) for our Constitution shown by the very people who we expect to uphold it.
Maggs, I will say that I am disappointed at your knee-jerk aligning with liberals who make a fetish of “press freedom,” even at the cost of the security of the state. Anyway, the fact is that this is an instance in which the Constitution worked; Afrika was briefly held, then promptly released by order of court. Would this have happened in apartheid South Africa? And where were the white liberals who whinge now when the apartheid state was detaining thousands of people without trial? And what about Guantanamo and the prisoners of Zion?
Kruger says:
August 6, 2010 at 8:58 am
Gerrie Nel was arrested on some flimsy charge a while back.
One of the considerations which informed the decision to disband the Scorpions was the “cowboy behaviour”.
Ignoring our Constitution cannot be justified for any reason.
Don’t forget that the President of the country, the honourable Dr Jacob Gedleyihlekisa Zuma once told the cops that criminals have a right to remain silent; therefore the cops should arrest them without asking them any questions and be put in jail to keep quiet as per their rights to remain silent.
The cops are therefore giving Mzilikazi wa Afrika his ‘right to remain silent’; especially his right to remain silent on the Cele and lease story.
Maggs, so Mzilikazi was loath to co-operate with the cops.
So what, our dear little change-agent? Good for him. In my book, journalists should not be too cosy with the cops. If the Hawks wanted his attendance in court they could have given him a written notice to appear, subpoenaed him, etc etc etc.
Is there any certainty yet that the ‘Hawks’ [LOL! Imagine being able to pick your nickname? Why not 'Security Police in Training'?] had an ARREST WARRANT?
About that ‘letter’….
Brett Nortje says:
August 6, 2010 at 10:03 am
Your nickname for the Hawks, … SPIT!
LOL! Hawk and spit, Mike? It does sum up my feelings for the ANC!
Ishmael, I want you to close your eyes and visualise where this country could have been if your views, now – on Parliament – were the prevailing ones, in 1997, in Parliament.
Cast your minds back to the day after Eugene Terreblanche was murdered. Nathi Mthetwha was was there before the blood was dry.
That showed leadership.
Where has our Minister of Police been since the Sunday Times hit the streets?
New twist.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=15&art_id=vn20100806042655475C782296
Something bothers me in this whole fiasco, why would Judge Kruger grant the Order when the accused was still due to appear in Court for his first appearance – within the prescribed 48hrs? I always thought that most commoners had to wait in the police cells until their first appearance and they can really only complain if they are not brought to Court within 48hrs. If this was a politician, would we not be reading about preferential treatment and how some animals are treated better than others.
Having said that, it appears that there were some mala fides in the whole process but surely those could be ventilated at the guy’s first appearance. Why did he have to be released before the Magistrate has had an opportunity to decide whether the guy should be granted bail or not?
http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/columnists/2010/08/06/it_s-a-waste-of-our-time
It’s gonna pretty hard to stop inflow, if that was the intention behind this.
“Online whistle-blower WikiLeaks has posted a huge encrypted file named ‘Insurance’ to its website, sparking speculation that those behind the organisation may be prepared to release more classified information if authorities interfere with them.”
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=nw20100806074013691C591591
The right to remain slient is a right which the citizen can invoke. It is not something that the State can foist on one.
My Constitution does not bestow on the President the prefix of “Honourable”.
Dumisani Mkhize is a Constitutional Skollie.
So now we know more about this mess.
1. Wa Afrika told a group of journalists before his court appearance that general Mapiyane, who is second in command in Mpumalanga’s crime intelligence asked why he had written a story claiming that Mpumalanga Premier David Mabuza had resigned. This took place at Wa Afrika’s interrogation at 2am on Thursday. “I told him to search on Google to see if he will find such a story. He told me that he didn’t like my attitude.” Editor of the Sunday Times, Ray Hartley, has reiterated several times that the story was never published.
2. Wa Afrika said another police official, warrant officer Molapo asked him why he was writing about Mpumalanga as there were eight other provinces to write about. “I asked him if he had a problem with it, and he said yes, he had a serious problem with it.”
3. “The toilet at Waterfall Boven didn’t even flush” – now about that R500 million …..
In the words of senator Padme Amidala: What if the democracy we thought we were serving no longer exists?
it is possible that WA AFRICA colaborated with the other 2 gentlemen to fabricate the story with the intention to distabalise the province, or simply to sell news, so if the journalist are that previleged to fabricate the story and get away with it i.e (prof support it), where is equality, i mean most of you were celebrating the arrest of selebi as a sign of working democracy. the fact here is, anyone who oppose the ANC must not be arrested (for democracy to seem to be working).
Prof, I was going to ask if you had any comments on the Kenya constitution and what we might want to apply in our own…
But, clearly there are more pressing issues to be discussed.
What the hell is going on?! Has the ANC-government completely lost its mind?!!!
So basically this sends a very serious message to anybody daring to point a finger at “General” Cele?!
The ANC has now officially lost all credibility.
Viva Minister Shabangu.
http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=117322
Dear Kenneth, we do not know all the facts. Your assumption that Wa Africa fabricated anything or that there was any fraud involved is thus misplaced. Remember that small matter of “innocent until proven guilty”? If Wa Africa was involved in fraud, he should of course be prosecuted. But there was clearly no reason to arrest him and keep him detained in the manner it was done. Selebi was never detained but it was arranged that he appear in court, which he duly did. If Selebi had been arrested by plain clothes policemen, whisked away to an undisclosed location, locked up for two days and interrogated at 2 in the morning, it would have been a scandal. Similarly, the treatment of Wa Africa, whether he turns out to be guilty or not, is a scandal. That is equality before the law.
Hit them where it hurts. Greedy, callous,selfish capitalists.
http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=117278
George Gildenhuys says:
August 6, 2010 at 11:29 am
“The ANC has now officially lost all credibility.”
That’s entirely off the mark.
Cops behaving badly hardly translates to the ANC losing all credibility.
by Xhanti Payi
Be shot down in Jozi or sidelined in Cape Town
Life is full of difficult choices, and the older one grows, the tougher it becomes, despite the assumption that you are meant to know better. Recently, I found myself having to make one of these choices.
In a packed bar last weekend, I ran into a familiar face, and my first instinct was to be aggressive. At first I couldn’t place the face, until he explained to me that he was a bouncer at one of Cape Town’s most popular joints. When I realised this, I remembered that it was the same guy who had refused me entry into that very bar months ago. At the time, he had explained to me that it was a private function inside and only people on the guest list could enter. Of course, I knew that this was a lie because my friends had entered the venue minutes before, while I was trying to get parking.
That evening, after he had “bounced” me, I went home very bitter and vowed that I would never go back there. And indeed I haven’t.
So when we crossed paths, and he sought to shake my hand, I walked away. Moments later, I realised I was being unfair, and that I couldn’t treat him like this because, quite frankly, he was doing his job.
As he explained to me, bouncers take orders from management. When you are standing at the door, management can come to you at any time and say, “There are too many black people in the club, make sure no more enter”, or “There are too many males, make sure only females enter”. In Cape Town, it’s usually the former.
One owner of a popular spot put it to me like this, “Once your place gets too black, the whites stop coming. As a business person in Cape Town, this is a situation you can’t afford. Maybe in Joburg you can because blacks bling.”.
Anyhow, this guy proceeded to apologise to me, almost pleading for my understanding. And as I thought about it, I wondered if I could really fault him for doing his job? Is he supposed to take a stand in a battle that has been raging for decades? Is it fair to ask him to disobey his employers or quit his job? My own friends had stayed inside instead of leaving with me in solidarity, rejecting this place for what it was. In the end, I shook his hand, expressed my understanding and walked away.
In Cape Town, in present day South Africa, my black, middle-class friends, routinely change their names and sometimes accents, to secure bookings at restaurants over the telephone. When responding to advertisements about apartments for rent, they send their white friends to go view for them and trick the owner until it is time to sign the lease – at which stage the owner will no longer be able to say the flat is not on the market just because the potential tenant is black.
This is the situation in what is now known as South Africa’s last colony. The year is 2010. It is incredible, but real.
And so, more and more young black people abandon Cape Town for Jozi, where the colour of your skin is irrelevant, as long as your wallet bulges with notes and credit cards.
So all of us, regardless of our skin colour, find ourselves in a rather precarious position – speak out or be silent.
But whose fight is it? Will black young people abandon those places where they are rejected because of the colour of their skin? Will white young people boycott those places which refuse their peers access merely because of the colour of their skin? Will black bouncers refuse to work in such bars or restaurants and thus go without work? Or will all the blacks move to Jozi where they are accepted, and whites continue to pretend that they don’t see colour.
I’m not suggesting that any single person or race is responsible. But clearly there is a problem. The question is; whose problem is it to solve? But as a friend of mine put it to me, “The choice is yours. Move to Jozi and risk a hijacking, or stay in Cape Town and know you are going nowhere”. It’s a tough call.
George Gildenhuys says:
August 6, 2010 at 11:29 am
“The ANC has now officially lost all credibility.”
With respect, George, you have officially gone crazy.
These cops were obviously acting off their own bat. The ANC does not tell cops what to do.
And you can be sure these cops will be harshly punished!
Thanks.
Last time I checked, “General” Cele was appointed by ……. wait for it….Jacob Zuma.
the day to day running of the police is not the ANC, I grant you that. But in the end the buck stops in the presidency.
I at least expect the minister of police to say he will investigate or something.
But I bet you the sick inept lot just sits back with a grin while civil liberties are being trampled on!
This must be the statement of the year from a detective.
Molapo deserve an award.
“Another police official, a Warrant Officer Molapo, reportedly asked him why he was writing about Mpumalanga “as there were eight other provinces to write about”.
Mikhail and add to that, the arrest of a journalist came at such a convenient time, just as the (inept) ANC is talking about a media tribunal…
Perhaps too convenient?!
Gwebecimele says:
August 6, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Musa Zondi said on 702 this morning that this has nothing to do with politics.
Make that two awards!
The special prize should go to General Mapiyane who it seems is investigating the writing of a story that was not written.
Ok – here’s a matter for the feisty Hawks.
“A trustee of the Nelson Mandela Children’s Fund said he took and kept three small uncut diamonds given to model Naomi Campbell so that she would not get into trouble.”
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article590153.ece/Mandela-Fund-trustee-kept-Naomis-blood-diamonds
I see a damages claim against Cele coming out of this. The case will be chucked before trial or he’ll be acquitted and the arrest will be found to be unlawful. Cele + Hawks will have even less credibility and there will be even more resistance to the tribunal and Info Act. Good work ANC cadres.
@Pierre
“To be honest, for the first time since we became free in 1994, I am running a bit scared.”
Bwahahahahaha!
You mean to tell us that Thabo ‘Prime Evil’ Mbeki did not scare you?
@ Khosi
ANC has a strong record of sorting out even the most powerful amongst its ranks. Once more sanity will prevail.
@Gwebecimele
Yeah right!
The entire organisation is rotten to the core!! Just a bunch of racist inept kleptomaniacs!
@Gwebecimele
What are you talking about?
Khosi, to be honest, no. I am middle class so I am a beneficiary of the 1996 class project! And the Constitution has always been a guarantee. If I was a poor HIV positive person on the other hand, well, maybe then I would have been dead.
Pierre De Vos says:
August 6, 2010 at 13:40 pm
“If I was a poor HIV positive person on the other hand, well, maybe then I would have been dead.”
But do you know anyone who died of HIV?????????
How can a Virus cause a syndrome? It can’t!
George Gildenhuys says:
August 6, 2010 at 13:22 pm
“The entire organisation is rotten to the core!!”
So there’s no hope then, until The Day of Judgment!
Prof
i did not say that Wa AFRICA colaborated with the other two guys, i rather said he “possibly “, since we do not have enough info, it is premature to spit those rhetorics i read on the blog,th fact that he wrote stories about general b cele, should not make him immune to charges or any form of prosecution. as far as the manner and the number of police involved i care very little, as long as it is legal.
Ok the Hawks swooped on dem stones.
“Police in South Africa confirmed on Friday that a trustee of the Nelson Mandela Children’s Fund gave them uncut diamonds he says he received from model Naomi Campbell.
“Yes, I’m confirming that. We sent them to the Diamond Board to have them authenticated and then we will make a decision after that,” said Musa Zondi, spokesman for the specialist police unit, The Hawks.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=nw20100806115701175C324595
@ Maggs
“How can a Virus cause a syndrome? It can’t!”
You raise a good point, Maggs. Did you know that more children die of Malaria every minute than have ever been killed by the so-called “syndrome”?
@ Gwebe
Personally, I would rather be shot in the face in Jhb than racially excluded from a club in CT. But maybe thats just me. (BTW, maybe your friends are going to the CT wrong venues. UCT kids think its so “cool” to be in a club with lots of black dudes! How sad.)
@Pierre,
Poor Maggs is trying to be smart. It backfired. Pierre knows very well that people do not die from HIV. People die from a basket of deceases that attack the body at the same time. This happens because so-called conventional science say that HIV, a virus, actually by itself leads to the degeneration of a body’s immune system and this phenomenon is called AIDS, a syndrome. Once the body has AIDS, then the basket of diseases attack with virtually no defense for a body and the carrier dies.
On the other hand:-
“If I was a poor HIV positive person on the other hand, well, maybe then I would have been dead.”
But what would have killed you?
deceases = diseases
http://www.thedailymaverick.co.za/article/2010-08-06-mzilikazi-wa-afrika-and-the-shape-of-things-to-come
Tell me again this has nothing to do with the (inept corrupt) ANC?
YEAH RIGHT!!!!
This stinks of ANC shenanigans!!
We are in good company .
Somewhere in the wild, wild North :
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/66470/john-githongo/fear-and-loathing-in-nairobi
I wanted to add something to this debate myself, but then I read this http://www.thedailymaverick.co.za/article/2010-08-06-mzilikazi-wa-afrika-and-the-shape-of-things-to-come.
Real scary.I see the Hawks’ spokesperson say the decision not to prosecute was made on the evidence to the prosecutor’s disposal. They then supplied him/her with additional information and the initial refusal to prosecute was reversed. My question, why didn’t the Haws give all the information to the prosucutor from the word go? All the evidence must surely be in the docket. I think the question can be asked, are the Hawks not committing fraud by withholding evidence from the prosecutor?
khosi says:
August 6, 2010 at 15:20 pm
Damn Dworky – traitor!
But he, Dworky did tell me of some cures for the so-called syndrome.
An industrial solvent will kill the virus, some vegetables and there’s the formulation dreamed up by a truck driver.
If all fails there’s the vitamins from a world famous quack.
But as Dwork correctly points out, there’s no crisis!
@ Maggs
“Damn Dworky – traitor!”
Maggs, with respect, you are a bloody bastard!
Thank you.
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 6, 2010 at 17:13 pm
Eish!
“you are a bloody bastard!”
Tjatjarag!
Agent!
AIDS cure, eh?
I’ll show you AIDS cure.
AIDS cure is what you have covered in that trouser, that is AIDS cure.
Oops, that did not come out right – but never mind, you are a small boy, you can’t do anything.
Don’t come here with that white tendency, not here, you can do it somewhere else.
As so often Prof, great article and wonderful blogging responses, am enjoying it so much, and I read you always, even when not commenting.
As for today, and in my opinion, there is definitely a change in the air, brinkmanship, growth, and just maybe that miracle I expect, gradually unfolding.
Remember: ‘No Fear’; it hampers and diminishes both the mind and our actions.
Brett: I found something interesting on my Discussion Area window as in, at the bottom of the site where you sign on to post (Leave a Comment), your website address was posted in the third block down titled Website (optional).
I have never known your website address, let alone copy it in the window for my Website listing (optional). In effect I have no idea how it got there.
Prof: perhaps you could ask your tech how that could happen.
Brett, my apologies.
As for Maggs and Fass, time to make up.
What website is that, Sirjay? Do you remember the address? (url?)
Only website I’ve ever had was one I was going to post videos on before my dogs lost their teeth.
Pierre and others: just maybe you now begin to understand why so many of us have been saying ” vote for the opposition”.
The Nats came into power a few years before I was born, so I am truly one of those who benefited from apartheid (although I did not vote for the Nats; as an English speaker I was one of a very slightly “disadvantaged” group who voted for the Sappe). In my formative years I never heard anything that could be construed as an authentic “Black Voice”. Why not? Well, didn’t we have legislation which made it illegal to publish anything the Govt. disagreed with – the ANC, Communists et al? And dissenting voices were subject to endless detention or house arrest.
Until I went to UCT as a mature student in the 80′s I was unaware that, far from protecting me from evil, the government was perpetuating the evil. The odd incident (like Steve Biko’s death – I had never heard of him before!) that had disturbed my equilibrium was easily explained by one of our ministers.
We must avoid a repeat of that kind of situation. Vote for anyone but the ANC, please.
sirjay jonson says:
August 6, 2010 at 19:32 pm
“As for Maggs and Fass, time to make up.”
No chance.
Hey Dworky,
Here you behave or else you jump.
This is not a newsroom and you don’t come here with that tendency.
Don’t come here with that white tendency. Not here. You can do it somewhere else. Not here. If you’ve got a tendency of undermining blacks, even where you work, you are in the wrong place. Here you are in the wrong place.
You don’t howl here. Especially when we speak, you behave like you are in an American press conference? It’s not America. It’s Africa. You must behave in an African way. You are in Rome, you do what the Romans do.
BTW, how are you?
Brett Nortje says:
August 6, 2010 at 20:50 pm
“What website is that, Sirjay? Do you remember the address? (url?)”
Probably this one :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY
Maggs, as part of the defensive action to counter the war of position I do try to turn many threads into a debate about the unconstitutional Firearms Control Act.
I do so when I sense a thread has run its course, is at its end and the topic is exhausted, purely out of consideration for other peoples’s airtime.
Your invitation to deflect this thread – concerning perhaps a defining moment, one of the most crucial events we will ever see – is respectfully declined.
Brett at 20.50pm: I believe what sirjay is speaking of is the Discussion Area on this site, where you enter “Name, Email. Website (optional)”. I tried to get to the referred website by clicking on sirjay jonson, which was in red indicating a link, but got ” BRETT” not found. Sometime sirjay may have accidentally entered your name on the wrong line, where it remained until removed recently.
Dear Magg:
First thing: Do you have a condom?
(I have one in in my pants. But frankly, it is rubbish.)
Brett is again right. You are deflecting this thread from the issue of Mr Afrika. Your reference to “Gestapo” tactics streches your credibility past breaking point.
Why don’t you aim your vitriol at Madam Zille’s stormtroopers — who are in the habit of flattening churches and levelling latrines on the Cape Flats?
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 6, 2010 at 23:54 pm
Dear Dworky,
Thank you too.
Regarding the rubbish – the pleasure is all yours.
There are two important matters of history that you must be engaged on.
First, the Gestapo never invaded Rome – it was the Gauls who did.
More important is “Brett is again right” – when was Brett right before, ever?
I’ll concede though that there may be some accuracy in that the arrest of Wa Afrika is “a defining moment, one of the most crucial events we will ever see” – as the words, carefully selected from that other historic moment, imply, it’s similar in impact to the election of Obama.
p.s. I think the stormtroopers are doing are doing a great job all by themselves – shooting at kids, raising money for administering a blog, making wedding arrangements, stopping whatshismane.
BTW – it’s reported that some oke threw booze at our Pres at the July and promptly got hauled off to jail – no R200 for him.
Brett confesses
“as part of the defensive action to counter the war of position I do try to turn many threads into a debate about the unconstitutional Firearms Control Act”
Brett, I respek your domestic concern. But the liberal impulse to deprive us of small arms is only a symptom of a broader American anti-proliferation tendency. So: I urge you join me and a few select friends in a march on the U.S. embassy next weekend to demand that the Islamic Republic of Iran be allowed to have as many nukes as it wants!
(Think globally.)
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 7, 2010 at 10:02 am
“demand that the Islamic Republic of Iran be allowed to have as many nukes as it wants!”
Indeed.
Nukes are harmless if used responsibly.
Nukes, contrary to popular myth, don’t kill people – people kill people.
Have you ever heard of a nuke going around asking “who shall I kill today”?????
Maggs is right.
I once thought private nukes were a big “No No.”
But I Brett and Zook have made me think again. Kept in a secure, lead-lined basement, a small tactical nuclear warhead is no more dangerous than a large microwave oven. (Kids must be taught not to touch!)
A nuke is property (s. 25 of the Constitution.) The burden is on the govt to justify, under s. 36,prohibition of private ownership of small nukes.
Thanks Brett!
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 7, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Hey Dwork.
“Kids must be taught not to touch!”
That’s wrong.
Please re-read the guidelines as stated by Brett and Zook, maybe you missed the lesson.
Kids must be taught how to handle these devices, ok let’s call it property, for their own safety.
p.s. Are rabbits property?
I ask cos I heard a fellow on 702 last night who says that it’s ok for rabbit farmers to step on the heads of rabbits to kill them because people eat meat and some people enjoy brutality of the defenseless – such things, he argued, is the nature of man.
@ Maggs
OK, Maggs, you are right.
Kids must indeed learn how to handle, and respect the awesome power of, thermonuclear propery from an early age. As it happens, my friend in Arizona sent his son to one those “Nukes for Kids” courses they every the summer. (Professors from the Tuscon Institute of Technology teach introductory courses part time through August.)
Hey Dwork,
“my friend in Arizona”.
Cheyney?
The fellow who shot his friend in the face because the friend looks like a moose?
@Brett -
I clicked on ‘sirjay johnson’ (in the instance where the name was highlighted) and got to sedoparking.com/brett.co.za. It advertises tours and a dating site, but none of the links work. Oh, and not a dog (toothy or otherwise) in sight. Curiouser and curiouser!
Apologies Brett, Eagle Owl, et al, don’t remember the site listed although the Homer vid was good, since I simply deleted it immediately, not feeling good about posting as someone’s else site. And no, Eagle Owl, I didn’t copy Brett’s info anywhere, why would I; obviously an odd tech flaw.
Brett, Fass, Clara: For that matter, I do have my own website(s). I just don’t let any SAfricans see it. You understand, don’t want to lose my visa.
Good on you Sirjay; presume you also don’t fancy 48 hours incommunicado in the General’s care!
LOL! Tour guide? A dating service? Sounds more like Maggs’ line. The unexplained also happened to Ricky’s post.
Listen, Maggs, Dworky! Now that you have successfully hijacked the thread, do you want to connect the dots?
Is the ANC’s heavy emotional investment in disarming elderly whites somehow connected to press gags, and summary warrantless arrest of dissident journalists? Points on a continuum? Nationalization of waterrights, mineral rights?
Dworky, have you read the FCA yet? Are you happy operating from a departure point of ignorance? Does your mother know your playing on your ‘puter on Shabat?
Do you deny that, since 1994, the ANC has engaged in a war of position that has dangerously mutated to racist overtones from Gramsci’s war of position?
Maggs, Dworky?
Brett Nortje says:
August 7, 2010 at 19:34 pm
Hey Brett,
“Does your mother know your playing on your ‘puter on Shabat?”
It was the better option between the ‘puter and rubbish.
Brett Nortje says:
August 7, 2010 at 19:39 pm
No, while I cannot speak for Dworky (even though he often speaks for me) I do not deny that, since 1994, the ANC has engaged in a war of position that has dangerously mutated to racist overtones from Gramsci’s war of position?
Even Malema and Yengeni are concerned about the “war of position”
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=nw20100807191300476C497023
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2010-08-06-tony-rides-again
BTW, who’s Gramsci? The new leader in Ventersdorp?
Does Gramsci have any nukes?
Impressed with M&G report on Yengeni… my goodness, its reassuring that these youth can actually mature and grow up, what with all those trolls from loothuis which make reading some comments (Times Live, for eq) unreadable.
Now how to get the ANC to realize that if they really do quality, that they actually might rule till Jesus sighs with relief.
You’re more inclined to speak sense when Dworky is speaking for you…
Gramsci is an Italian red communist bastard.
Brett Nortje says:
August 7, 2010 at 21:54 pm
So Gramsci is not a sardine?
That name sounds rather fishy to me.
Italian eh!
Oh well, as Asterix always says, those Romans must be crazy.
Maggs, may I say how we all enjoy these enlightening heads-up you post for us!
Do you perhaps have a homily on civil liberties available, written by say, Robert Gabriel Mugabe? If you do not have a lecture on civil liberties on hand, perhaps a short Mugabe discourse on governance?
Thank you!
Braying burro!
We can all relax and forget any arguments because the oracle has spoken:
http://www.newstime.co.za/SouthAfrica/Malema_confirms_no_debate_needed_for_media_tribunal/8941/
Brett Nortje says:
August 7, 2010 at 22:06 pm
Hey Brett,
“a short Mugabe discourse on governance”
You’re in luck.
http://www.zimonline.co.za/Article.aspx?ArticleId=6249
@ Brett
“Do you deny that, since 1994, the ANC has engaged in a war of position that has dangerously mutated to racist overtones from Gramsci’s war of position?”
Yes, Brett I deny this. The way I see it, the ANC has engaged in war of IMposition, its target being the lumpenproleteriat. That is why I demand that you help us sponsor a “revolution within the revolution.” We will need not only small arms, but also your acute analysis of the war of position, not to mention your meticulous taxonomy of meta-critical discourse.
Please help us Brett!
Thanks,
Thank you.
I really laughed hard at the assurance that no individuals would be benefitting from Zim diamonds, that the proceeds would be used for collective upliftment. I am sure the grateful inhabitants of Zimbabwe will use their new -found diamond riches to acquire some really palateable rats.
Comrade Juju and Mugabe must have had fascinating discussions on governance that helped put the finishing touches on the complete ZANYfication of the ANC – we saw some of the results this week. (We even saw some of the spillover of their putting their heads together in the BusDay – like the sale of Southern Africa to China. )
Perhaps you have advice from Mugabe at hand on winning elections that might aid the DA – seeing that you were so helpful in thrashing out an election strategy for them earlier this week?
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 7, 2010 at 23:19 pm
Eish Dwork,
“We will need not only small arms”
It’s not right, you trying to make Btrett look silly.
Children have small arms.
Everyone knows that our constitution will not allow child soldiers, even if Brett volunteers to train them on carefully using property.
Whatever. Who cares if you disagree that the ANC has taken Gramsci’s war of position and turned it into a racial war on position?
Dworky, have you read the Firearms Control Act yet? Can you connect the dots to this week’s events and take a flyer at the logical progression?
45 000 White South Africans murdered since 1994, 90 000 white women raped?
Maggs: Brett is talking about a GENOCIDE here! Are you willing to sponsor me in setting up an ad hoc Commission to look into this?
Brett, was not Gramsci the older brother of Grompy, the misanthropic sage smothered in Naples during the 50s?
Some soul – searching is both hypocritical and injurious – see :
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2010/07/self-serving-white-guilt/
Sometimes I ponder whether the ” chattering classes ” ( as defined ) , some of whom inhabit this blog , could benefit from the wise words of “satirist successor to Aristophanes, Juvenal, Rabelais, and Swift,” namely, the late Malcolm Muggeridge . Here’s hoping .
A brief excerpt from :
Esquire, December 1970
THE DECADE OF THE GREAT LIBERAL DEATH WISH
by Malcolm Muggeridge
“Never, our archaeologists of the future will surely conclude, was any generation of men intent upon the pursuit of happiness more advantageously placed to attain it, who yet, with seeming deliberation, took the opposite course—toward chaos, not order; toward breakdown, not stability; toward death, destruction and darkness, nor life, creativity and light”
Searching about in my mind for an appropriate name for the decade which has just begun, I settle for The Decade of The Great Liberal Death Wish. It seems to me that this process of death-wishing, in the guise of liberalism, has been eroding the civilization of the West for a century and more, and is now about to reach its apogee. The liberal mind, effective everywhere, whether in power or in opposition, particularly so during the present period of American world domination, has provided the perfect instrument. Systematically, stage by stage, dismantling our Western way of life, depreciating and deprecating its values so that the whole social structure is now tumbling down, dethroning its God, undermining all its certainties, and finally mobilizing a Praetorian Guard of ribald students, maintained at the public expense, and ready at the drop of a hat to go into action, not only against their own weak-kneed, bemused academic authorities, but also against any institution or organ for the maintenance of law and order still capable of functioning, especially the police. And all this, wonderfully enough, in the name of the health, wealth and happiness of all mankind. Previous civilizations have been overthrown from without by the incursion of barbarian hordes; ours has dreamed up its own dissolution in the minds of its own intellectual elite. It has carefully nurtured its own barbarians—all reared on the best Dr. Spock lines, sent to progressive schools and colleges, fitted with contra-ceptives or fed birth pills at puberty, mixing D. H. Lawrence with their Coca-Cola, and imbibing the headier stuff (Marcuse, Chairman Mao, Malcolm X) in evening libations of hot chocolate. Not bolshevism, which Stalin liquidated along with all tho old Bolsheviks ; not nazism, which perished with Hitler in his Berlin bunker; not fascism, which was left hanging upside down, along with Mussolini and his mistress, from a lamppost—none of these, history will record, was responsible for bringing down the darkness on our civilization, but liberalism. A solvent rather than a precipitate, a sedative rather than a stimulant, a slough rather than a precipice; blurring the edges of truth, the definition of virtue, the shape of beauty; a cracked bell, a mist, a death wish. I was fortunate enough myself, while still in my late twenties, to be presented with a demonstration of the great liberal death wish at work, so manifest, so incontestable in its implications, and, at the same time, so hilariously funny, that I have never subsequently felt the smallest doubt that here lay the key to the tragicomedy of our time. It happened in Moscow, in the Autumn of 1932 and Spring of 1933, when I was working there as correspondent for the, then, Manchester Guardian. In those days. Moscow was the Mecca for every liberal mind, whatever its particular complexion. They flocked there in an unending procession, from the great ones like Shaw and Gide and Barbusse and Julian Huxley and Harold Laski and the Webbs, down to poor little teachers, crazed clergymen and millionaires, and driveling dons; all utterly convinced that, under the aegis of the great Stalin, a new dawn was breaking in which the human race would at last be united in liberty, equality and fraternity forevermore. Stalin himself, to do him justice, never troubled to hide his contempt for them and everything they stood for, and mercilessly suppressed any like tendencies among his own people. This, however in no wise deterred them. They were prepared to believe anything, however preposterous: to overlook anything, however villainous ; to approve anything, however obscurantist and brutally authoritarian, in order to be able to preserve intact the confident expectation that one of the most thoroughgoing, ruthless and bloody tyrannies ever to exist on earth could be relied on to champion human freedom, the brotherhood of man, and all the other good liberal causes to which they had dedicated their lives. It is true that many of them subsequently retracted; that incidents like the Stalinist purges, the Nazi-Soviet Pact, the debunking of Stalin at the Twentieth Party Congress, the Hungarian and Czech risings, each caused a certain leakage among liberal well-wishers. Yet when the dust settles, the same old bias is clearly discernible- It is an addiction, like alcoholism, to which the liberal mind is intrinsically susceptible—to grovel before any Beelzebub who claims, however implausibly, to be a prince of liberals. Why? After all, the individuals concerned are ostensibly the shining lights of the Western world; scholars, philosophers, artists. scientists and the like; the favored children of a troubled time. Held in respect as being sages who know all the answers; sought after by governments and international agencies; holding forth in the press and on the air. The glory of faculties and campuses: beating a path between Harvard and Princeton, and Washington. D.C.; swarming like migrant birds from the London School of Economics, Oxford and Cambridge into Whitehall. Yet I have seen their prototypes—and I can never forget it—in the role of credulous buffoons capable of being taken in by grotesquely obvious deceptions. Swallowing unquestioningly statistics and other purported data whose falsity was immediately evident to the meanest intelli-gence. Full of idiot delight when Stalin or one of his henchmen yet again denounced the corrupt, cowardly intelligentsia of the capitalist West—viz.. themselves. I detect in their like today the same impulse. They pass on from one to another, like a torch held upside down, the same death wish. Editors come and go, newspapers decline and fold, Labour Governments form and unform; after Roosevelt, Truman and then Eisenhower; after Kennedy, Johnson and then Nixon; but the great liberal death wish goes marching on.
What good is the writing on the wall to those more interested in cartoons?
Brett, please stop trying to divert this thread away from the nukes issue.
I still say that SA would have been less likely to invade Lesotho in 1996 if the mountain kingdom had even a small nuclear complement!
True or false?
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 8, 2010 at 1:53 am
Hey Dwork,
It’s unlikely that Brett intends genocide – that’s a crime against humanity which is a case for the UN.
Maybe ethnic cleansing, as Bush #1 described it.
The evidence is compelling so far.
1. Property.
2. The minister refuses to pay compensation.
3. GFSA
4. Godless, shameless ANC
p.s. is the number 45 000 or 44 999? Should we include “assisted suicide” in the enquiry
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 8, 2010 at 10:24 am
Hey Dworky,
Do you think the Swazi Justice minister tata ma chance with no 14 was because the King does not have a small nuke?
Or did no 14 fly the coop becase he really has a small nuke?
Isn’t it almost like someone has goven the go-ahead for hostilities to resume now that the WorldCup has ended?
http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Boer-vermoor-in-koeelreen-
20100803#
Boer vermoor in koeëlreën
2010-08-03 23:38
Marietie Louw-Carstens
’n Beesboer is gisteroggend buite Lephalale (Ellisras) in ’n koeëlreen doodgeskiet. Mnr. Koos Daffue (46) het minder as 3 km van Lith, sy plaas, gesterf.
Hy is op kort afstand agter die stuurwiel van sy bakkie vermoor.
Mev. Johanna Daffue, sy ma, het aan Beeld gesê: “Dit was ’n beplande moord.”
Daffue was om 05:40 van sy plaas op pad na die Medupi-kragstasie, waar hy as kontrakteur gewerk het.
Lt.kol. Ronel Otto, provinsiale polisiewoordvoerder, het gesê Daffue se aanvallers het op hom losgebrand toe hy oor ’n laagwaterbrug oor die Mogolrivier gery het.
Dit is ’n enkelbaan waar slegs een voertuig op ’n keer kan ry. “Dit lyk asof hy ingewag is by die brug,” het Otto gesê.
Die swaar gewonde Daffue het sowat 500 m verder met sy Toyota Hilux-bakkie gery, beheer oor die bakkie verloor en dit het omgeslaan.
Mnr. Kassie Lubbe, ’n familielid, het gesê 11 skote is op Daffue afgevuur. “Dit lyk asof die aanvallers, nadat hy op die brug geskiet is, langs die bakkie gehardloop en aanhou skiet het.”
Otto het gesê Daffue is, nadat die bakkie omgeslaan het, nog vyf keer in die bolyf geskiet.
Beeld verneem daar was onlangs glo ’n rusie tussen Daffue en plaaswerkers. Daar was glo ook onmin tussen hom en ’n kollega by die Medupi-kragstasie.
Otto het gesê alle leidrade word ondersoek.
Die polisie se eenheid teen georganiseerde misdaad in Limpopo het voertuig- en skoenspore naby die bakkie gekry. Daffue se geskokte ma het gesê mense in die omgewing het “die baie skote gehoor”.
“Mense wat ook op pad werk toe was, het gesien wat gebeur … hulle het ons gebel,” het sy huilend gesê.
Niks is uit Daffue se bakkie gesteel nie.
Die vakbond Solidariteit, waarvan Daffue ’n lid was, het gister in ’n verklaring ’n beroep op die polisie gedoen om die spesialis-eenhede weer in te stel.
“Dit is duidelik dat die polisie nie die polisiemag doeltreffend kan aanwend nie,” lui Solidariteit se verklaring.
Die Daffues het Saterdag nog Jurie, hul seun, se 21ste verjaardag gevier.
“Hy was ’n gesinsmens. Hy sou enigiets vir enigiemand, enige tyd gedoen het. Hy was baie liefdevol,” het Lubbe gesê.
Daffue laat sy vrou, Lydia en drie ander kinders, Jaco (18), Nonna (11) en Joanne (7) agter.
Maggs, it is better if you do not place words in Brett’s mouth.
He can speak for himself.
Don’t come here with your subtle-international-law-distinction (“ethnic cleansing”), tendency.
Brett used the word “GENOCIDE.”
Get over it!
Brett, funny you should mention it. Yesterday, I witnessed a group of blacks congregated on the corner of Long and Shortmarket Street. They seemed innocent enough. But then I saw it: a tall man, who appeared the leader, made an emphatic yet subtle gesture with his left hand. The meaning was unmistakable — Hostilities Resume!
BTW Brett, I heard a rumour that every black has sworn an oath the kill one white person the day Mandela dies. Is that so? What can I do to defend myself in that eventuality? Your advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 8, 2010 at 12:06 pm
“a tall man, who appeared the leader”
Was it the Sardine with the grumpy brother?
p.s. your story does not make sense.
If every Black person will kill one White person and the ratio of Blacks to Whites is 8:1 then what does every White person get killed eight times or do is there a plan to open up immigration for another 35 million Whites to arrive soon?
p.p.s is the Homecoming Revolution linked to the diabolical plan?
Dworky, I do not think that kind of intent can be read into someone giving you the finger!
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 8, 2010 at 11:32 am
Dworky,
Brett did not say “GENOCIDE”.
He said “Can you connect the dots to this week’s events and take a flyer at the logical progression?”
He also said “Italian red communist bastard”.
And Brett does not speak for himself – he speaks for GFSA.
Do you two have lives? Or do you troll message boards all day? Just as a matter of interest?
Maggs, isn’t it kewl?
Black people get to fight OVER us! No-one has ever fought over you, now have they?
Maggs, I imagine that – like Dworky – you get the finger from all over, all day?
Brett Nortje says:
August 8, 2010 at 12:34 pm
No. Yes. Maybe.
Yes.
No.
BTW is the plan to challenge Brandon Huntley in Canada related to soon to be unleashed GENOCIDE, just to manage the ratio?
Brett Nortje says:
August 8, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Yes.
LOL! Truth serum? Why the refreshing candour?
Brett Nortje says:
August 8, 2010 at 12:45 pm
There’s an Italian saying (not from the commie though) “The best lie is the truth)”.
Gtg – will be back later to insult you some more.
We’re slowly becoming a communist country, aren’t we? Nationalisation agenda for the mines, now the media. All that’s left is oil and gas. Long live the ANC’s conflicts of interests!!!Thank you Madiba, it was a great run!
Maggs, so far as I understand it, only able-bodied adult African males, who are either citizens or permanent residents, will do the actual killing. So the ratio more or less works out.
But Brett knows the details. Ask him.
OMG, Brett! Long leave Nelson Mandela! Long leave!
Full circle, Clara?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTPOyPipRs
@Brett – Yes, I guess so. Hey, that’s my favourite JC.
‘Long leave Nelson Mandela, long leave’…
Sounds similar to the stupid thinking thinking I’ve seen in this forum: ‘Anything is better than Thabo Mbeki, anything…’
Begs the question: What is more important? The ideals of a few that have everything to gain by polluting the minds of our majority or an inspired dream worth fighting and spilling blood for…
You new, self-imposed ellite must bear witness to this. I and many others will spill blood (our own if necessary) before we see the dream realised in 1994 turn into a heap of cr@p. We will find a way to beat this …
May the force be with you (unless its the dark-side)…
I had an interesting conversation with my partner of 10 yrs today, she formerly of the disadvantaged, now a professional librarian.
When I was complaining, somewhat grumpy at the time, at the wastage of human capital and opportunities made available by our present regime, also press threats etc, she said:
All we want is people in the various jobs who have a passion for their work, and who care about the people.
Says it all, right?
Clara, isn’t everything in life a choice or the consequences of choices? The ANusClowns are pissing away brand South Africa (3.0 World Cup 2010.)
Not driven by ideology this time round, but greed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64oz-XxXYpg
Just to remind us of the other choices available, that there were other options…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMmUtvYL4B8
CONTINUED FROM Nimrod says:
August 8, 2010 at 9:54 am
Esquire, December 1970
THE DECADE OF THE GREAT LIBERAL DEATH WISH
by Malcolm Muggeridge
” What but a death wish could bring about so complete a reversal of all the normal worldly considerations of good sense, self-interest and a desire to survive? I remember reading in Taine’s Oriffines de la France Crmtt’-niporaine of how, shortly before the Revolution, a party of affluent liberal intellectuals were discussing over their after-dinner cognac all the wonderful things that were- going to happen when the Bourbon regime was abolished, and freedom a la Voltaire and Jean-Jacques Rousseau reigned supreme. One of the guests, hitherto silent, suddenly spoke up. Yes, he said, the Bourbon regime would indeed be overthrown, and in the process—pointing round—you and you and you will be carried screaming to the guillotine: you and you and you go into penurious exile, and—now pointing in the direction of some of the elegant ladies present— you and yon and you hawk your bodies round from sansculotte to sansculotte. There was a moment of silence while this, as it turned out, all too exact prophecy sank in, and then the previous conversation was resumed, I know several fashionable and affluent households in London and Washington and Paris where similar conversations take place, and where similarly exact prophecies might be made, without, as on the occasion Taine so appositely described, having the slightest impact. It would seem to be clear, then, that the great liberal death wish arises out of a historical, or maybe biological, necessity, rather than out of any rational, or even irrational, considerations. Civilizations, like classes and families and regimes, degenerate, and so must be wound up. Just as the great-grandson of some famous ducal figure or billionaire may have thrust upon him the disagreeable fate of ending his line, and, drooling and dissolute, duly ends it, so the liberal mind, likewise drooling, has been entrusted with the historic task of bringing to an end what we are supposed to be defending with might and main—I mean what wo still like to call our free way of life and the free institutions which have sustained it. On such a basis, all the views, attitudes, values and recommendations of the liberal mind today make complete sense. Going back to my Moscow experience, those eminent intellectuals abasing themselves before Stalin, and so fatuously accepting his bona fides as a lover of human freedom and enlightenment, were simply fulfilling a manifest destiny to abolish themselves, their culture and their world. “
The assault on Democracy has been on going. no wonder we are considered a Rogue “Democracy”. The ANC is hell bent on retaining power and now resorts to intimidating journalists and Liberty loving Citizens.
http://www.polity.org.za/article/african-national-congress-national-general-council-discussion-documents-august-2010-2010-08-02
Media Diversity and Ownership
“152. It is our responsibility further as we set the agenda for change that we DOMINATE the battle of ideas and that our voice is consistently heard and that it is ABOVE the rests.”
Is this not classic stalin rhetoric ? We know that the ANC is not for Democracy but for a totalitarian state in which all bow down before it.
“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.” – Joseph Stalin
And some South Africans support such archaic governance! They back the ANC (criminal organization) with their entire being, are these South Africans mentally ill ? Do they need help… I believe they do
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 8, 2010 at 13:58 pm
Hey Dwork,
I dunno, but “only able-bodied adult African males” really sounds silly.
It will be unconstitutional – remember that discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation is unacceptable. The CC would have something to say about that.
In any event a paraplegic can use an assegai or heavy calibre guns just as ably as the able-bodied person.
And what if say women or the physically challenged use non-violent methods of carrying out their duty – lethal injections, electric chairs?
Either you or Brett needs to think through that a bit more carefully.
You guys are engaging in this debates emotionally and as a result missing crucial points. What we should debate is HOW MUCH FREEDOM should the media get? Is it just and fair for the media to be referee and player at the same time like it is now? Are the fears in the ANC (that of thinking the media is being used to discredit the movement) for real, and if yes like it appears, what had the media done to bring about this (wrong for some, right for some) perception AND what can be done by the media to be seen to be fair moving forward?…For me these are the fundamental questions we need to robustly debate. More importantly – how do we make sure that the media move beyond just being the ‘public ears and voice’ but an agent of real transformation in bringing back the economic power to the masses of our people instead of largely safeguarding the interests of Capitalism and conservatives.
Spuy says:
August 8, 2010 at 23:57 pm
By “Transformation” I take it you mean the ” National Democratic Revolution ” of the ANC/SACP alliance and Mr. Julius Malema’s ANCYL ? ( see SACP Constitution, for example ).
The die-hard communists frequenting this blog need to read the late Leszek Kolakowski’s seminal essay ” What is Left of Socialism ” at :
http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/01/-what-is-left-of-socialism-15
in order to refresh their memories ( if they have any ) .
Incidentally , Spuy , please provide an example of the utopian country where the popular press has brought “the economic power to the masses of our people instead of largely safeguarding the interests of Capitalism and conservatives.”
A crucial question is : Who owns and controls the popular press in SA ?
For example, the Cape Times’s oft quoted ” Second Opinion ” editorial – The Independent- is now owned by Russian oligarch, and former employee of the KGB , Alexander Lebedev ( see report below )
The Independent
belfasttelegraph.co.uk
Russian billionaire purchases Independent titles from INM
Friday, 26 March 2010 Russian billionaire Alexander Lebedev has agreed to buy the Independent and Independent On Sunday for a nominal £1. The Lebedev family will take control of the loss-making national titles and the Independent website, with existing staff set to transfer over after the takeover. The deal will see Independent News & Media (INM), which also owns the Belfast Telegraph, pay Mr Lebedev £9.25m over 10 months to take on the future liabilities of the newspapers. Mr Lebedev said: “I am a supporter of in-depth investigative reporting and campaigns which promote transparency and seek to fight international corruption. “These are things the Independent has always done well and will, I hope, continue to do.” The papers will continue to be run out of their current offices in Kensington, west London — premises they already share with London’s Evening Standard, which is owned by Mr Lebedev. Shares in INM leapt 12% ahead on news of the takeover agreement. Gavin O’Reilly, group chief executive of INM, said: “This is a most satisfactory and positive outcome for the titles, their staff and for INM’s shareholders.” INM’s UK boss, Ivan Fallon will step down from his role as a result of the sale, which is expected to complete in May, subject to Irish competition approval. Mr Lebedev also co-owns, with former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta.
Eric
you are a very angry, this has nothing to do with journalist but the racial anger of being ruled by blacks, just pack and go , nobody chained you to stay in AFRICA.
Spuy says:
August 8, 2010 at 23:57 pm
“More importantly – how do we make sure that the media move beyond just being the ‘public ears and voice’ but an agent of real transformation in bringing back the economic power to the masses of our people instead of largely safeguarding the interests of Capitalism and conservatives.”
We can make sure that the media do these things by ensuring that the media reports freely, fairly and reliably on crime, corruption, failures of government, lack of delivery.
In other words by doing the things that some in the corridors of power are trying to stop or curtail.
1) Unfortunately, Nimrod, the filthy capitalist running dogs get to exploit us first before we get to read the article. That’s not on, dude.
2) Also regrettably, you do not engage Spuy on these naive questions:
Q HOW MUCH FREEDOM should the media get?
A The issue is not the media’s freedom to publish information but my freedom to receive and use or discard information. As usual, when the ANC is to blame it is everyone else’s fault and there is a mad rush to duck responsibility.
Q Is it just and fair for the media to be referee and player at the same time?
A You are the referee: If you’re gatvol of a publication tell them why and switch. If one of the players is a thug the coach should have substituted him and not let him play again for fear of alienating the fans. The captain took on the responsibility voluntarily – what is he doing about thuggish behaviour?
Q Are the fears in the ANC (that of thinking the media is being used to discredit the movement) for real?
A No, the ANC is discrediting the movement all on its lonesome by thievery, corruption, mismanagement and incompetence!
Q AND what can be done by the media to be seen to be fair moving forward?…
A Are they not fair already? Just because it is your ox being gored the media is not fair? Puhlease! If The Star screws up does The Citizen not bring the gaffe to public attention – loudly? Is competition not already a self-regulatory mechanism? Is there a harsher judge than the market?
Q how do we make …. the media ….an agent of real transformation
A Where in the Constitution does it say the media has to be an agent of real transformation? These are all semantics aimed at sparing the ANC embarrassment when their leaders get caught with their fingers in the till. The Blade faction is in ascendancy, Blade was peeved when he was proved a hypocrit who likes the trappings of wealth like expensive cars, then again 5-star hotels…..Mthethwa was caught diverting away taxpayers hard-earned money from delivery to expensive hotels – Nyanda, Blade again… the list is endless.
Spuy,, dude, I am under no compulsion to live with ANC lies. SHape up or don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Q bringing back the economic power to the masses of our people instead of largely safeguarding the interests of Capitalism and conservatives.????
A You’re kidding, right?
1) How is this a core function of the media?
2) How is stopping criticism and exposure of those diverting money (illegally incompetently corruptly dishonestly) from the finite pie called ‘the Budget’ (comprised of the hard-earned of people from who 60% of their earnings have been alienated forcefully) going to advance the interests of those from whom it has been diverted, from whom it should have been delivered to?
This last claim is complete garbage.
@ Spuy
“What we should debate is HOW MUCH FREEDOM should the media get? Is it just and fair for the media to be referee and player at the same time like it is now?”
Spuy is right. The South African media is the mouthpiece of the CAPITALIST interests that own it. That is why I, personally, trust the SABC much more as a news source.
The liberal media is dead-set against the SOCIALIST program of the ANC!
Brett Nortje says:
August 9, 2010 at 8:50 am
Hey Brett,
“Spuy,, dude, I am under no compulsion to live with ANC lies. SHape up or don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.”
Please don’t listen to Kenneth ( kenneth says:August 9, 2010 at 7:13 am) and leave with Eric.
Dwork’s GENOCIDE ratios are going to get really messed up.
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 9, 2010 at 8:59 am
You should keep your rubbish to yourself and not expose it in public!
I f the journalist aint hiding something they should allow the commission of enquiry( to check if more of them received any brown envelopes to turnish the names of other political parties of mre individual)to take place, but i doubt it, because they seem to enjoy the status quo, where they can write as many lies as possible,knowing that they cannot be prosecuted.
What should happen though,i think, any journalist who knowingly publish a lie about any official or political organization, should be given 15 years sentence.
And if he accepts money as the reward for tainting someone’s image , minimum of 15 years in jail like all other corruption cases.
The reason they are not going to accept anything like this, is because they know they are guilty as charged, they are 3rd force political arm hell bent to turnish everything to do with the ruling party.they cannot stand to face judges on a court of law.
Kenneth, I have a sneaking suspicion you would like to see journalists who write the truth about the ANC and its officials get 30years.
Commission of enquiry when journalists have done nothing they can be prosecuted for, huh?
Here’s a better idea for ANC leaders: Want to save the embarrassment of being exposed for buying R1M cars and living in 5-star hotels for six months at a time at taxpayers expense?
Simple!
Don’t buy R1M cars and live in 5-star hotels for six months at a time at taxpayers expense!
Assclowns!
Brett, there was highly quoted Ginwala commission, of which most people liked its outcome, so my point stand, if journalist have done nothing wrong(which i doubt)they will allow such commission, the audit to be done on their accounts and their spouses accounts, just to see if they really got involved in such activities since there is a suspicion, as for R1M cars, that is not corruption since that was on their budget allocation , the worse it can be is just inefficient use of the funds, WA AFRICA must answer his case in court, not at Lithuli head quarters
” Constitutionally Speaking ” undergraduates/dilettantes should know that some say that , ultimately, everything that matters is controlled by ” The Illuminati “
Kenneth is right: journalists who knowingly lie attack the very fabric of our body politic, and could even destabalise TRANSFORMATION.
Strong deterrence is therefore needed. It is in this context that I believe it may be appropriate to revisit the sensitive topic of the death penalty.
Brett Nortje says:
August 7, 2010 at 23:28 pm
Comrade Juju and Mugabe must have had fascinating discussions on governance that helped put the finishing touches on the complete ZANYfication of the ANC – we saw some of the results this week.
How freedom dies
http://www.citypress.co.za/Columnists/GuestColumnist/How-freedom-dies-20100807
I had to pinch myself several times to believe that I wasn’t dreaming of a meeting of journalists in Harare in early 2003 when the ruling Zanu PF of President Robert Mugabe had begun to tighten the screws on media freedom.
…………..
By 2003, the Zimbabwe Media Information Commission was fast becoming a reality.
………….
Listening to the language used by President Zuma, Jeremy Cronin, Blade Nzimande, Floyd Shivambu, Julius Malema and Gwede Mantashe who all involved in this spirited, self-serving campaign for the media tribunal, my sense of deja vu is acute.
Nafcoc goes begging after blowing R10m
http://www.citypress.co.za/Business/News/Nafcoc-goes-begging-after-blowing-R10m-20100807
………………………….
This is after the head office has spent R1 million on the latest black S350 CDI Mercedes-Benz for its president, Lawrence Mavundla. This expenditure in turn comes after another spree of spending on cars in November, when the office bought a fleet of 13 Toyota Hilux double cabs and two Nissan Navaras worth R5 million. …………………
On Friday, Mavundla denied that the chamber was broke.
“Where are you picking up this crap?” he asked. “Nafcoc is not broke and the only time our personnel were paid late was after we took over last November.”
He refused to be drawn on the acquisition talks involving Teba Bank.
“Even if Nafcoc was about to acquire Teba Bank, where were you going to fit this good development among the rubbish you are busy writing?” Mavundla said.
Kenneth, Jesus could have entered Jerusalem in a golden chariot but chose a donkey instead.
The people lining the way thought enough of Him to toss their cloaks and palm-fronds into the road, for Him to walk on.
If a politician wants my respect he’ll go around in a Nissan 1400 bakkie.
Hands up everyone chuckling traitorously at the thought of the average ANC legislator squeezing into a Nissan 1400 bakkie!
In the back perhaps, although that can only stand a load of about 250kg.
Brett Nortje says:
August 9, 2010 at 10:57 am
Hey Brett,
“If a politician wants my respect”
Which politician would be that crazy????????????
kenneth says:
August 9, 2010 at 9:28 am
Hey Kenneth,
“What should happen though,i think, any journalist who knowingly publish a lie about any official or political organization, should be given 15 years sentence.”
It sounds good.
How many journalists have knowingly published lies about any official or political organisation that you know of?
Let’s assume that (A) a tribunal is not be such a bad idea because (B) some of the media abuse their powers and positions. In terms of governance – who do the ANC and/or government want to see in charge of this new ‘body’? It CANNOT be linked to the ANC in any way. It must be a democratically appointed group or board that hold no political affiliations. The authorities appointed and the process used to appoint them will prove its ultimate purpose
lawrence mushwana?
To head the media tribunal?
Brett Nortje says:
August 9, 2010 at 11:37 am
I vote for Brett.
Let’s learn from Jesus who entered Jerusalem on a donkey.
Listen, Maggs, in 1967, Moshe Dayan entered Jersusalem on a tank.
I hope you are not suggesting that gives him the right to judge our journalists.
Thanks.
In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
Somehow, Dworky, I think the Biblical lesson in huility is lost upon Maggs!
Brett Nortje says:
August 9, 2010 at 11:37 am
Not at all Dworky,
It would be a good thing to have Brett heading the media tribunal.
Before the fateful day when he gets marked for termination, his knowledge of useful things (taxidermy, Naples, palm fronds, property, question and answers, JC – no, no, not that one, but the guy that sings on youtube, S25) will help develop our constitutional democracy.
Do you support my vote for Brett to head the media tribunal?
Brett Nortje says:
August 9, 2010 at 13:32 pm
Hey Brett,
“I think the Biblical lesson in humility is lost upon Maggs!”
You’re wrong.
I am very humile.
LOL! SO you DO know the word!
kenneth says:
August 9, 2010 at 9:56 am
Hey Kenneth,
The media so need to be stopped, it cannot be allowed to destablise our country by reporting such lies.
Politicians and the religious leaders need to unite, working together they can do so much more to stop such destabilising reports.
“Millions of rands have vanished in a financial scandal that has rocked the Anglican Church in the southern Cape to its foundations.”
http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article591196.ece/Corruption-rocks-Anglican-diocese-in-SA
Here’s a link. To me, joy and excitement and true freedom is expressed so well in these pics. It is what the west is about, true freedom in all its both many and expanded expressions.
Comments at this link mostly completely misunderstand what is happening, and shows so clearly the difference between that most exquisite western Democratic style and the majority’s still born freedom here.
Compare this freedom to that of Muslim women, or for that matter to South African blacks and VGK Afrikaner.
True freedom does include riding naked, being comfortable with your body, and compassionate in the cause of others.
If so interested? http://www.timeslive.co.za/sport/other/article592976.ece
This sounds so much like they read from the same Book :
Bishop Harker declined to discuss the saga in detail, but agreed to answer some questions “for the sake of clarity”.
“This is not a case for the newspapers.
“The church is dealing with it internally, in a spiritual manner, …”
Why don’t you guys get together over a cup of coffee ( correct that make it a glass of wine). This blog is starting to sound like a ladies tea club.
@ Sirjay
“True freedom does include riding naked, being comfortable with your body”
Thanks for this thought, Sirjay. I routinely ride naked (though with a saddle), on my farm outside Kuruman. But became furious when my right to do so was invaded by Fleet Street paparazzi, as it was this time last year. Frankly, it is this experience that makes me sympathise with demands that journalists be locked away for irreponsible raportage. Freedom of the press is not license to assault our dignity!
@Brett: “… isn’t everything in life a choice or the consequences of choices? The ANusClowns are pissing away brand South Africa …”
Do you think it is fair asking a non-intellectual person like me such a loaded question? Speaking only for myself, I would say you make your choices, which invariably turn out to be the wrong ones, whereupon you better make the best of the ensuing consequences and/or consider them as ‘fate being thrust upon you’. What this has to do with the ANClowns I’m not entirely sure. I have never voted for them, and the people who do richly deserve what’s coming.
Fass: well, that’s the balance, isn’t it. But only true and honest Democracy can give us freedom, the protection from varying views and prejudices about life. about self advancement, about others. Press Freedom is more than vital, and whether we like their criticism or not, without it there is no Democracy. Freedom of Speach is, yes actually, the holy cow of Democracy
It leads to all other freedoms, specially those freedoms from false accusation and punishment by narrow minded self seeking bigots and moral hypocrites.
Do you know the story of the Square Sheep, thus produced so they are easier to ship. Bulshit, like most of our political spin these days absorbed by the uneducated.
Freedom is to be who you are, who I, who our friends and compatriots and enemies are. To be ourselves and not threatened.
Tolerance combined with empathy and compassion is the only solution which will work.
I refer to the following from the Angel Community at Swellendam, and await your ironic reply, see herewith as follows:
“I deserve to be Happy, Prosperous and Free… I deserve to live in Peace and Harmony… and so it is!”
Can you disagree with this?
THE SOUL OF MAN UNDER SOCIALISM
by OSCAR WILDE
Excerpt :
” It was a fatal day when the public discovered that the pen is mightier than the paving-stone, and can be made as offensive as the brick-bat. They at once sought for the journalist, found him, developed him, and made him their industrious and well-paid servant. It is greatly to be regretted, for both their sakes. Behind the barricade there may be much that is noble and heroic. But what is there behind the leading article but prejudice, stupidity, cant, and twaddle? And when these four are joined together they make a terrible force, and constitute the new authority.
In old days men had the rack. Now they have the press. That is an improvement certainly. But still it is very bad, and wrong, and demoralising. Somebody – was it Burke? – called journalism the fourth estate. That was true at the time, no doubt. But at the present moment it really is the only estate. It has eaten up the other three. The Lords Temporal say nothing, the Lords Spiritual have nothing to say, and the House of Commons has nothing to say and says it. We are dominated by Journalism. In America the President reigns for four years, and Journalism governs for ever and ever. Fortunately, in America journalism has carried its authority to the grossest and most brutal extreme. As a natural consequence it has begun to create a spirit of revolt. People are amused by it, or disgusted by it, according to their temperaments. But it is no longer the real force it was. It is not seriously treated. In England, Journalism, not, except in a few well-known instances, having been carried to such excesses of brutality, is still a great factor, a really remarkable power. “
Clara says:
August 9, 2010 at 15:45 pm
Hey Clara,
“I would say you make your choices, which invariably turn out to be the wrong ones”
That sure sounds Brettish!
Anyone knows what this means?
135 The ANC resolves that the matter of global governance of the internet should be democratised. Practical measures to deepen the debate and discussion on this important issue should be implemented.
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/history/conf/conference52/resolutions-f.html
Kenneth is right, a commission of inquiry about all cases of corruption in politics (including those dealing with journalists) is long overdue. Meanwhile all journalists and those politicians implicated (Rasool, Zuma, Nyanda etc etc etc) should obviously step aside until we know for certain who is corrupt. Thank you.
May I quote myself? Normally I would not, but seeing that it triggered such a prolonged filibuster by Maggs and Dworky….
Brett Nortje says:
August 8, 2010 at 11:28 am
Isn’t it almost like someone has goven the go-ahead for hostilities to resume now that the WorldCup has ended?
http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Boer-vermoor-in-koeelreen-20100803#
Boer vermoor in koeëlreën
2010-08-03 23:38
Marietie Louw-Carstens
Brett Nortje says:
August 9, 2010 at 21:42 pm
Hey Brett,
Why do you feel the need to quote yourself when Dworky and I quoted you extensively on two very important matters that you have consistently raised, (viz. property and GENOCIDE)?
‘quoted you’ and ‘misquoted you’ are opposites, Maggs.
Although – typically – the ANC’s relationship with information being like the devil and brimstone – the crime statistics for the World Cup period are being withheld, it is clear from the media that there was a drastic reversal of the trend where farm murders and violent home invasions were concerned.
Is it unreasonable or fallacious reasoning to infer that, if the ANC control the ‘OFF’ switch, they also control the ‘ON’ switch?
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Rape-ordeal-Mom-tells-boy-to-cover-his-head-20100808
Rape ordeal: Mom tells boy to cover his head
2010-08-08 22:30
Hilda Fourie, Beeld
Pretoria – Before being raped and assaulted with a garden fork, a mother from Pretoria told her 7-year-old son to hold on tight to his Daschund and pull a blanket over his head.
The robber also kidnapped her, and she suspects she jumped out of the car to get away from him. She broke her right arm, right leg and jaw, but can’t remember parts of the incident.
More than two weeks after the attack in The Orchards, in the north of Pretoria, the police have still not visited the 35-year-old mother or taken her statement.
The mother, who may not legally be identified, woke up early that morning and saw a man standing in the room with a gardening fork in his hands, when he switched on the bedroom light.
Her son, who was lying next to her, also woke up.
“I went ice-cold. He told me to come to him and jerked me out of the bed. I told my son to hold his puppy, Kassie, tightly and pull the blanket over his head.”
The attacker beat her over the head with the gardening fork and demanded money.
R30
“He said he would kill me if I screamed. He hit me with the back of the garden fork a few times.”
They returned to the bedroom where the little boy told the attacker that he had R30 is his wallet, which was in the kitchen.
The attacker then raped her on the paving next to the swimming pool.
“While he was raping me I prayed out loud: ‘Lord, forgive him, for he knows not what he does.’ He kept shouting ‘shut up, shut up’.”
The robber took her son’s R30 as well as her bank card, forced her into her car and drove off.
At one stage she saw lights and started screaming, but once again he beat her over the head.
“I can’t remember what happened next. All I know is that I felt the ground, then I was gone.”
‘A miracle’
She was found by a woman who lives nearby. She was admitted to the intensive care unit at the Eugene Marais hospital.
Besides her broken right arm, right leg and jaw, she also needed many stitches to her face and on the back of her head.
“God was good to me. He saved my life,” she said.
“It’s a miracle that I’m alive. I’m getting the most wonderful support from my loved ones. What about the poor women who can’t say that?”
Since the incident, no-one from the Akasia police station has been to see her to take a statement.
The investigating officer, a male constable, is not answering her family’s calls.
Her sister-in-law, a police official, received permission from the police to take down the statement. More than a week later, this statement has not yet been fetched.
Eugene Opperman, Gauteng police spokesperson, said the case is being investigated on “a high level” after he brought it to the attention of the provincial chief detective.
http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/ANC-se-Kasrils-kap-wet-20100809
ANC se Kasrils kap wet
Pieter du Toit
Kaapstad. – Die ANC se oënskynlike planne om persvryheid in te perk is gister vanuit eie boesem gekap toe mnr. Ronnie Kasrils die omstrede Wetsontwerp op die Beskerming van Inligting gekritiseer en mnr. Zwelinzima Vavi gesê het hy staan “saam met redakteurs” in hul pogings om dié wet te keer.
Kasrils, ’n voormalige ANC-minister van intelligensie wat die omstrede wetsontwerp in 2008 ter tafel gelê en toe onttrek het, meen die vyandige klimaat wat geskep word en die seine wat die regering oor persvryheid stuur, “moet beveg word”.
Hy het in ’n onderhoud op Talk Radio 702 skerp kritiek op sy party se motiewe vir die wet gelewer, gesê hy vrees boosdoenery kan toegesmeer word as die wet deurgevoer word en dat joernaliste “nie soos vyande behandel moet word net omdat hulle met die regering verskil nie”.
Die parlementêre ad hoc-komitee wat die wetsontwerp oorweeg, sal vandag oor openbare voorleggings wat aan die wetgewer gedoen is, gesprek voer.
Kasrils het die benadering van mnr. Cecil Burgess (ANC), dié komitee se voorsitter, ook skerp veroordeel.
“Sy kommentaar dat mense ‘obsessief oor oopheid’ is, is ysingwekkend … ysingwekkend.
Dis ’n boodskap wat ongelukkig soms van die regering af kom en waarteen ons moet waak.
Ons Grondwet gaan immers oor oopheid, verantwoordbaarheid en deursigtigheid.”
Hy het ook ’n beroep op die regering gedoen om te gaan kyk na die weergawe van die wet wat hy destyds laat oorskryf het en waarin verskeie wigte en teenwigte, insluitend ’n bepaling oor die openbare belang, vervat is.
Vavi, Cosatu se hoofsekretaris, het herhaal die vakverbond is teen die wet gekant.
”Ons is saam met redakteurs hieroor en sal dit teëstaan so lank as wat nodig is. Dit is in elk geval heel moontlik ongrondwetlik en ek meen tog dit sal heroorweeg word.”
Hy wou hom egter nie oor die ANC se planne vir ’n mediatribunaal uitlaat nie en het gesê sy organisasie het nog geen amptelike standpunt daaroor nie.
Dít sal op ’n vergadering van Cosatu se uitvoerende komitee op 23 Augustus uitgeklaar word.
Kasrils meen die ANC se planne daarvoor moet ook fyn bekyk word: “So ’n liggaam móét onafhanklik wees. Hoe op dees aarde gaan mense dit vertrou indien dit blyk ministers of die regering beheer dit?”
Intussen het Media Monitoring Africa (MMA), ’n organisasie wat verslaggewing en neigings in die pers dophou, gesê ANC-kritiek op die media is “buite verhouding”, “ongebalanseerd” en die party wend hom eerder tot retoriek as om statistieke of ander bewyse voor te lê.
“Ná 17 jaar waarin ons die media dophou, is dit MMA se siening dat die ANC se aantygings (oor oneerlikheid, ’n gebrek aan integriteit en ’n halsstarrigheid om regstellings te plaas) eenvoudig onwaar is.”
@ Kenneth
Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I am not, in general, in favour of the hanging of journalists. What I am saying is that the liberal press cannot continue to destabilise our democracy without paying the price. I demand that Cmd Malema lead a study tour to Cuba, to learn from Cmd Fidel, and his brother, how one deals best with media hooligans in an atmosphere of counter-revolution and popular ingratitude!
@Kenneth – if the journalist knowingly and deliberately tell lies, surely those being lied about have recourse to the courts.
Please will the Legal Eagles elucidate how libel and defamation work? I have always believed that the only defence one has against a claim that you have committed libel is that what was said is true. Of course, the legal route is expensive, the taxpayers seem to pay for everything else the ANC does, so whats new!
“Mdladlana applauded the black lawyers who drafted the bills and said black lawyers were always associated with incompetence and lack of professionalism.”
from
Minister denies ‘shoddy’ report
2010-08-09 22:25
News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Minister-denies-shoddy-report-20100809
EISH!
@kenneth and where am I to go ? Should I buy a passport, rob a bank and set sail into the sunset ?
Being ruled by a dictatorship, purple, green or tangerine is not fun. Living under a communist party is not fun…
Any party who wants dominate the media and have their voice heard above all others is not a Democratic party…
The question is, when can you take up arms and defend the democratic ideal ?
“…That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it…” - The Declaration of Independence
Oh and the right to form militias should be a given. Disarming Citizens is a mask. The ANC is petrified of us Liberty loving Citizens rising up.
Eric says:
August 10, 2010 at 0:41 am
“Oh and the right to form militias should be a given.”
Now that will sort out the poor service delivery.
And political disagreements.
The “Golden Age” of Investigative Journalism Never Existed
The legendary journalist isn’t concerned about the current state of investigative reporting. But he does worry that readers are less interested in serious journalism than they used to be.
…
Question: Would government funding for newspapers compromise the quality of their journalism?
Carl Bernstein: I don’t know whether it would compromise the quality of the journalism, I think that it might compromise the perception of the quality of the journalism, which is equally important. I think also that it might lead to some kind of self-censorship.
And I think self-censorship is really the great danger, not just in the United States, but in the west and Asia as well. Because the old Draconian model of censorship by government body doesn’t work any more partly because of the Internet. And also, what we’re finding… I did an introduction to the Committee to Protect Journalists’ Annual Report last year and what we found was that, you know, there’s a tremendous amount of violence directed at journalists around the world today. There’s an awful lot of journalists being killed, targeted assignations. And the intent of that is to impose self-censorship because government censorship is all but impossible except in a place… China still does it to some extent, Burma does it, North Korea does it, but the old nation/state with the ability to shut down the press and own it, even in Venezuela, it’s tough to do.
Question: Is the government more secretive now than it was during the Watergate era?
Carl Bernstein: There’s plenty of secrets. And secret government, you know, is really the enemy. That’s the enemy. It’s not the ideological enemy that we ought to be just concerned about here, meaning within our Republicans and Democrats. That’s secret government and the tendency to secrecy.
Whether it has to do with waste, fraud, and abuse. And one of the things the Obama Administration’s doing is very interesting is that, that the President and the people around him recognize that there are regulatory tools and investigative tools in the departments, whether it’s the Center for Medicare and Medicaid, the FDA, all kinds… DOD. There are all kinds of ways to put the mechanisms of government investigation to work to save money as well as end corruption. And there is terrible corruption.
If you look at the Medicare and Medicaid system, what individual contractors and medical suppliers and insurance companies are doing is an outrage. There are some legitimate ones and there’s some legitimate services and goods, and then there’s a whole other subculture. So the Obama Administration, unlike its immediate predecessors has really started to get serious about this, in the Department of Education, in the FDA, in Health and Human Services, in the Department of Defense. There are plenty of secrets.
Recorded July 22, 2010
Interviewed by David Hirschman
http://bigthink.com/ideas/21728
I read this blog and cringe.
How is it that even intellectuals cannot see the obvious.
Why is it that these people cannot see that a party with such high ideals has completely lost the plot?
With a statistic that says 2 out 0f 5 women in SA will be raped.
With everybody wondering if they or their loved ones will be the next victim.
With every state enterprise bar two under performing.
With over 90% municipalities dysfunctional and some even becoming heath hazards.
This list goes on forever.
And some are still saying government is OK!
People please explain to me why you think the present incumbents in government is not forsaking every noble cause and taking the whole country to oblivion?
@MaggsNaidu: thank you for this link (http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/history/conf/conference52/resolutions-f.html)
COMMUNICATIONS AND THE BATTLE OF IDEAS
86. Conference recognises that while there has been much progress in engagement with the Media much still needs to be done as some fractions of the media continue to adopt an anti-transformation, anti-ANC stance.
87. This remains our responsibility to engage with.
88. The ANC is faced with a major ideological offensive, largely driven by the opposition and fractions in the mainstream media, whose key objective is the promotion of market fundamentalism, control of the media and the images it creates of a new democratic dispensation in order to retain old apartheid economic and social relations.
89. This offensive against our movement, in its content and form, is part of a global offensive against progressive values and ideas. The increasing concentration of ownership, control and content within the international media environment is reflected in the local industry and re-enforces this offensive.
90. The ANC’s commitment to media freedom is well known and entrenched. This principle is reflected in the Constitution Act of 1996. The ANC’s commitment to freedom of expression in society, including the media, is located within the context of the Constitution of the Republic. These rights need to be weighed against other constitutional rights, such as the right to human dignity and privacy.
91. Despite this, the ANC notes that in many instances the media in pursuit of the application of this freedom of expression principle, conducts itself to the detriment of the constitutional rights of others.
92. The ANC is of the view that the media needs to contribute towards the building of a new society and be accountable for its actions. The ANC needs to make creative use of a range of mechanisms to communicate with the widest spectrum of South Africans.
93. With particular reference to the print media, the ANC notes that the current form of self regulation as expressed in the form of the Press Ombudsman/ Press Council is not adequate to sufficiently protect the rights of the individual citizens, community and society as a whole.
94. The print media industry is not covered by a sectoral Broad-based Black Economic Empowerment Charter, and that where media houses have concluded BEE transactions, these have not necessarily translated into a diversity of views, underlying the fact that advertising profiles and key management positions remain largely the same.
95. The apparent lack of skills within the media to analyse and explain the complex economic and social transformation through which South Africa is going is both a challenge and a constraint. In the pursuit of capital accumulation owners of media houses do not readily invest in the development of journalism. Often they rely on syndicated reports, grouping editorial content, etc. Commercial interests are thus increasingly impacting negatively on editorial quality. These and other related factors constitute the real threat to media freedom, diversity and democracy.
abidam says: With over 90% municipalities dysfunctional and some even becoming heath hazards.
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If this is true then we are really in trouble because we cannot vote any party into power as all have failed. If only 10% of all municipalities are not dysfunctional then we must agree that the problem has nothing to do with the parties, maybe we do not have the skills required to run municipalities in general.
Lies, Damned Lies
Plato’s ‘ noble’ lie :
Plato (circa 428 – 348 BC) was the great Athenian philosopher that was a pupil of Socrates. Of his numerous writings, The Republic is perhaps the most
influential as he refers to the concept of a ‘noble lie’ in which he asserts that lying is not merely forgivable but admirable, as long as it is done for moral reasons. Plato was a member of the governing class and was making a profound case for rule by an elite group of wise and disinterested philosophers.
He made it clear that only the ruling classes were allowed to lie, and then only in certain circumstances for the good of the state:
“… It will be for the rulers of the city, then, to use falsehood in dealing with citizen or enemy for the good of the state; no one else may do so. And if any citizen lies to our rulers, we shall regard it as a still graver offence than it is for a patient to lie to his doctor, or for an athlete to lie to his trainer about his physical condition, or for a sailor to misrepresent to his captain any matter concerning the ship or crew, or the state of himself or his fellow sailors … and so if anyone else in our state is found telling lies he will be punished for introducing a practice likely to capsize and wreck the ship of state…”
Plato’s ‘noble lie’ was a kind of parable. It was false and deceitful, but it was nonetheless benign in its consequences because it ensured social harmony and made the population more inclined to care for the state and one another.
In any democracy, the public should have a healthy scepticism about the claims and practices of politicians
Thomas says:
August 10, 2010 at 8:12 am
Hey Thomas,
“If this is true then we are really in trouble because we cannot vote any party into power as all have failed. If only 10% of all municipalities are not dysfunctional then we must agree that the problem has nothing to do with the parties, maybe we do not have the skills required to run municipalities in general.”
This is one of the most sensible comments that has been posted in a long while.
Objective Journalism’s Death Knell
The universal popular press’s egregious partisanship during President Barack Obama’s election campaign signalled the death knell of credible ” objective ” journalim , in my opinion .
@ Nimrod
Thank you so much for taking the trouble to copy and pasting large chunks of text from all over the web onto this blog. Really help us with our reading selection!
@ Thomas
“We cannot vote any party into power as all have failed.”
So, so true, Thomas, so true. Alll the parties have shown they cannot run muncipalities. What are we to do?
I can assure you that the media group will never accept such thing like commission of enquiry on their dealings with information paddlers, the tide has come for change and foraccepting the democratic values enshrined in our constitution.
just like Brett correctly says, it will be very expensive(pepper duur) and take very long to see your defamation case heared in the court of law as it currently is, the media laws should be changed and only those who INTENTIONALLY LIE and those WHO ACCEPT money to discredit their enemies, should face the music.( arrested and jailed)
@ Thomas
“We cannot vote any party into power as all have failed.”
Come to think of it, Thomas, this may be a little unfair. I know not whether anyone has done a study correlating local government success and party control. But I feel somewhat confident that such a study would show that ANC-run local governments (with some exceptions), do the best. Not surprise, really. The party that has the confidence of the majority of our people has a built-in governance advantage. And the voters are no fools!
Is it possible that the Polokwane conference’s removal of Thabo Mbeki was a big ‘dust up’ that overshadowed and distracted us all from their documented-goals of ‘democratizing’ the media ANC-style? By ANC-style I mean democratically (ie. they are the majority so it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks)…
ps. the ANC appear to have perfected the art of distraction…
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 10, 2010 at 8:33 am
@ Nimrod
“Thank you so much for taking the trouble to copy and pasting large chunks of text from all over the web onto this blog. Really help us with our reading selection!”
I trust that my ” witnessing ” is not a case of :
“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.”
( Matthew 7:6
)
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 10, 2010 at 8:41 am
Hey Dworky,
“I know not whether anyone has done a study correlating local government success and party control.”
Do you think is related?
“The amendments defined—“chairpersons, deputy chairpersons, secretaries, deputysecretaries or treasurers of the party nationally, or any province, region or other area in which the party operates”—as those who would be excluded from senior management positions.
It also banned the employment of top municipal managers who did not have basic skills and forced municipalities to report to Shiceka and the relevant provincial MEC, when city managers were appointed.”
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article592783.ece/Zuma-to-end-cadre-deployment-in-local-government
The cynical may think relate the change in approach to the possibility that the ANC is likely to lose control of some local governments in the next LGE.
That aside the proposed bill may not be entirely consistent with the Cadre Policy and Deployment Strategy adopted at the 50th Conference in 1997.
“The 50th Conference resolution instructed us to set up Deployment Committees and to develop and implement a deployment strategy for the movement at all levels. …
Ensure at all times an ongoing link between the recruitment of members (through our branches and within the centers we are deployed), our political education and cadre development programme and our deployment strategy.”
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/pubs/umrabulo/articles/cadrepolicy.html
Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder says:
August 9, 2010 at 15:24 pm
Hey Dwork
“I routinely ride naked (though with a saddle), on my farm outside Kuruman.”
You do that so well too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1hz9Gy17k
Abidam,
The answers to your questions are found in the studies of Soloman Asch and Stanley Milgram.
Approximately 92% of individuals (rich, poor, black white, educated uneducated, don’t matter) lack the skills and capabilities to resist ideological, racial, political and/or religious peer pressure; i.e. they are addicted for their ‘thinking’ on following the herd.
There is only one culture on planet earth’s whose constituional foundatiuonal goal for their culture is to teach their cultural members the skills and capabilities for emotional and critical thinking intelligence.
Interestingly, that culture’s emotional and critical thinking skills and capabilties teachings are currently banned in South Africa.
@abidam you are quite correct, technocrats and “intellectuals” of the ANC administration and their lapdogs have proven that they are ill equipped to govern.
How can a “liberation” party make election promises… and then goes back on them ? Why are so many “intelligent” South Africans not seeing the bigger picture ? It is called Social Genocide, it is a deliberate action by the ANC and their alliance partners to create suffering and dismantle the Republic so they can rebuild it in their own image.
What did Mao do ? What was the point of the cultural revolution, but to destroy the Republic and rebuild it in the image of Mao. The same happened in North Korea, where Kim Sung is considered to be an eternal being (god).
Do you see the similarities here in South Africa by the cult worship of nelson mandela ? Just imagine what is going to happen when he dies, how many people will be besides themselves due to the personality cult ?
The ANC claims it will rule until “Jesus” returns… indicating it intends ruling forever…
The ANC proclaims it is for democracy but if we look at all the documentation before us, it is clear they are striving for a hybrid form of marxism (if that exists).
http://www.marxists.org/subject/africa/anc/1955/freedom-charter.htm
http://www.anc.org.za/show.php?doc=ancdocs/pubs/umrabulo/umrabulo1.html
http://www.numsa.org.za/article.php?cat&id=756
Democratic ? These documents do not point to a Democracy, but to totalitarianism.
So I ask the question again, when does it become legal to fight for Democracy ?
When you think, things can’t be any worse.
http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Swazi-bans-City-Press-20100811
“Swaziland security forces were apparently instructed to buy all copies of the City Press that ran the story over the past two weeks, while at least one person was arrested for making copies of the story.”
I wonder if Zuma will try the same tactic with his latest corruption scandal.
Would that be corruption charge #780 or #781 ?
@ Eric
“The ANC proclaims it is for democracy but if we look at all the documentation before us, it is clear they are striving for a hybrid form of marxism (if that exists)”
What is you evidence for this extraordinary claim, Eric?
On the evidence currently available, it looks more like the standard post-colonial model, i.e. “crony” capitalism; the wealth stays predominantly in private hands, inequality gradually increases, and the state legitimates itself with absurdly fake populist rhetoric.
This is why I wanted the arrest to happen, it seems as if there is more.
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2010-08-13-spin-doctor-redfaced-over-fake-letter
Different take on the Kumba/ Mittal issue
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mw/view/mw/en/page292681?oid=500930&sn=2009+Detail&pid=287226
@Michael Osborne do you know who Milton Friedman is ? do you know who the “Chicago Boys” are ?
When you have researched, you will see what is happening… it is called Social Genocide, a resultant of Disaster Capitalism.
I once again ask, how do we file a class action lawsuit against the ANC government for failing its Constitutional obligations ?
@Gwebecimele that looks like a cut and dry case of planting evidence, to get a journalist and councilor arrested… is that legal ? Is there any Justice in this Republic ?
Eric, thank you, but I have no need to research the “Chicago Boys.” That is perhaps because I myself had the honour of being a visting lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School.
So you gave lectures at the school of economics ? Look at what they (Chicago Boys) did to Russia, Argentina and South Africa to name a few. It is a criminal and they need to be brought to book. You surely can help with a class action law suit against the ANC government ?
How do I write an application for Direct Access to the Constitutional Court ?
Eric, are you are referring to Naomi Klein’s book? I hope not.
As for direct access to the CC, take a look at the Rules of the CC, which are on the CC website. If you look at the cases reported on the site, you will see the the applicant’s papers are often linked. There, you will find plenty of examples of applications for direct access.
I am indeed, what a great book, highlighting the chaos caused by Milton Friedman and his ilk.
As for Direct Access, I have already tried that avenue and probona.org…
2 Supremacy of Constitution
This Constitution is the supreme law of the Republic; law or conduct inconsistent with it is invalid, and the obligations imposed by it must be fulfilled.
I am surprised by your blasé attitude, the economic policies embraced the ANC have resulted in massive corruption and as a result have caused the death harm to countless.
“On the evidence currently available, it looks more like the standard post-colonial model, i.e. “crony” capitalism; the wealth stays predominantly in private hands, inequality gradually increases, and the state legitimates itself with absurdly fake populist rhetoric.”
LAW or CONDUCT… ? What lawyer allows the ANC to get away with murder, rape and theft ?
I thought lawyers were to stand up to Injustice, to fight the good fight…