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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25964</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the SAPS&#039; CIAC, there were 26 832 murders in 1994. 

One interesting anomaly is that the population stood at 38 630m in 1994 - 43 050m in 1999. So, one would expect the murder total to climb with the growth in population. It did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the SAPS&#8217; CIAC, there were 26 832 murders in 1994. </p>
<p>One interesting anomaly is that the population stood at 38 630m in 1994 &#8211; 43 050m in 1999. So, one would expect the murder total to climb with the growth in population. It did not.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan in Botswana</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25956</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan in Botswana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret-
You say the homicide rate dropped dramatically and atribute this to a million new gun owners in SA. What was the homicide rate before the million new gunowners started reducing crime?  With 18,000 murders a year, SA is by far the most murderous country in the world. Are you serious when you say more guns will help to reduce this figure? 
Sorry, we have wondered off topic here.  Of course President malema won&#039;t sue anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret-<br />
You say the homicide rate dropped dramatically and atribute this to a million new gun owners in SA. What was the homicide rate before the million new gunowners started reducing crime?  With 18,000 murders a year, SA is by far the most murderous country in the world. Are you serious when you say more guns will help to reduce this figure?<br />
Sorry, we have wondered off topic here.  Of course President malema won&#8217;t sue anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25932</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL! Go whine to someone who cares, Dworky!

Is it not amazing, though, that there are still people who cling to straws?  There is just so much evidence that gun control is a bad idea....
How can these people live with all the lies and BS that are part and parcel of the anti-gun campaign?

They must be very scared....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! Go whine to someone who cares, Dworky!</p>
<p>Is it not amazing, though, that there are still people who cling to straws?  There is just so much evidence that gun control is a bad idea&#8230;.<br />
How can these people live with all the lies and BS that are part and parcel of the anti-gun campaign?</p>
<p>They must be very scared&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett, I feel nothing but the utmost respek and love for you.

Yes, like Maggs, you often mistake my passionate endorsement for cynical sarcasm.

Makes me sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett, I feel nothing but the utmost respek and love for you.</p>
<p>Yes, like Maggs, you often mistake my passionate endorsement for cynical sarcasm.</p>
<p>Makes me sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25930</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see more research done on why gun owners use licenced firearms in property crimes and crimes of passion at a statistically insignificant rate, while the SAPS abuse service firearms in property crimes and crimes of passion at such a high rate?

Does this make sense? Gun owners - who commit statistically insignificant levels of crime with registered firearms, have their S14 privacy rights raped, while no records are kept of what firearms members of the SAPS, who are constantly in the news because of crimes committed with service pistols, have in their possession????

Phew! The moral compromises it takes to advocate gun prohibition!

&quot;Nie &#039;n enkele polisiebeampte kan aanspreeklik gehou of vervolg word vir die 
byna 4 000 wapens wat die polisiediens binne 19 maande verloor het nie.

Die rede daarvoor is dat die polisie tot nou toe vuurwapens aan 
polisiekantore uitgereik het en dit nie in indivi­duele beamptes se name 
geregistreer is nie.

Mnr. Nathi Mthethwa, minister van polisie, se kantoor het dié skokkende 
bekentenis gister in &#039;n verklaring gedoen.

&quot;Die huidige stelsel waar polisiekantore, en nie beamptes nie, vir die 
veiligheid van vuurwapens verantwoordelik is, gaan geskrap word.

&quot;Die verliese is kommerwekkend en onaanvaarbaar,&quot; lui die verklaring wat 
mnr. Zweli Mnisi, Mthethwa se woordvoerder, uitgereik het.

Mnisi het by navraag gesê wanneer &#039;n verdagte met &#039;n polisiewapen betrap 
word, is dit onmoontlik om te bepaal aan watter beampte dit oorspronklik 
uitgereik is.&quot; 
From
http://www.dieburger.com/Content/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/1708/b3fd5d251a614b719ada0398c6e07791/25-02-2010-05-29/Niemand_word_vervolg_oor_4_000_wapens_wat_polisie_verloor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see more research done on why gun owners use licenced firearms in property crimes and crimes of passion at a statistically insignificant rate, while the SAPS abuse service firearms in property crimes and crimes of passion at such a high rate?</p>
<p>Does this make sense? Gun owners &#8211; who commit statistically insignificant levels of crime with registered firearms, have their S14 privacy rights raped, while no records are kept of what firearms members of the SAPS, who are constantly in the news because of crimes committed with service pistols, have in their possession????</p>
<p>Phew! The moral compromises it takes to advocate gun prohibition!</p>
<p>&#8220;Nie &#8216;n enkele polisiebeampte kan aanspreeklik gehou of vervolg word vir die<br />
byna 4 000 wapens wat die polisiediens binne 19 maande verloor het nie.</p>
<p>Die rede daarvoor is dat die polisie tot nou toe vuurwapens aan<br />
polisiekantore uitgereik het en dit nie in indivi­duele beamptes se name<br />
geregistreer is nie.</p>
<p>Mnr. Nathi Mthethwa, minister van polisie, se kantoor het dié skokkende<br />
bekentenis gister in &#8216;n verklaring gedoen.</p>
<p>&#8220;Die huidige stelsel waar polisiekantore, en nie beamptes nie, vir die<br />
veiligheid van vuurwapens verantwoordelik is, gaan geskrap word.</p>
<p>&#8220;Die verliese is kommerwekkend en onaanvaarbaar,&#8221; lui die verklaring wat<br />
mnr. Zweli Mnisi, Mthethwa se woordvoerder, uitgereik het.</p>
<p>Mnisi het by navraag gesê wanneer &#8216;n verdagte met &#8216;n polisiewapen betrap<br />
word, is dit onmoontlik om te bepaal aan watter beampte dit oorspronklik<br />
uitgereik is.&#8221;<br />
From<br />
<a href="http://www.dieburger.com/Content/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/1708/b3fd5d251a614b719ada0398c6e07791/25-02-2010-05-29/Niemand_word_vervolg_oor_4_000_wapens_wat_polisie_verloor" rel="nofollow">http://www.dieburger.com/Content/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/1708/b3fd5d251a614b719ada0398c6e07791/25-02-2010-05-29/Niemand_word_vervolg_oor_4_000_wapens_wat_polisie_verloor</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25929</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Dworky!

CIAC figures show that is exactly what happened between 1994 and 2000.

What I would really like to see, is a scheme whereby black women are subsidised by the state (since they bear the brunt of the rape epidemic) when they buy a handgun.

We need to get the rate of gun ownership up to the levels seen in Europe. Far too few people in this country own firearms - that is why the crime rate is so high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Dworky!</p>
<p>CIAC figures show that is exactly what happened between 1994 and 2000.</p>
<p>What I would really like to see, is a scheme whereby black women are subsidised by the state (since they bear the brunt of the rape epidemic) when they buy a handgun.</p>
<p>We need to get the rate of gun ownership up to the levels seen in Europe. Far too few people in this country own firearms &#8211; that is why the crime rate is so high.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25928</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett is right.

I applaud SAPS&#039; efforts to liberalise access to firearms. through gradually relaxed security at weapon storage facilties. 

I am firm in my conviction that, as more and more previously disadvantaged South Africans acquire weapons, our appalling crime levels will decrease!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett is right.</p>
<p>I applaud SAPS&#8217; efforts to liberalise access to firearms. through gradually relaxed security at weapon storage facilties. </p>
<p>I am firm in my conviction that, as more and more previously disadvantaged South Africans acquire weapons, our appalling crime levels will decrease!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25927</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenneth is right.

It is very important to contextualise the allegations against Cmd Malema by considering other abuses.

I wonder, for example, which cosmetic surgeons and suppliers landed the lucrative tender to provide aesthetic augmentation to the Botox Madam of the liberal Republic of the South Western Corner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth is right.</p>
<p>It is very important to contextualise the allegations against Cmd Malema by considering other abuses.</p>
<p>I wonder, for example, which cosmetic surgeons and suppliers landed the lucrative tender to provide aesthetic augmentation to the Botox Madam of the liberal Republic of the South Western Corner?</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25926</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=117397,1,22

&quot;Mthethwa said the department had been disturbed by figures indicating that during the 2008/09 financial year a total of 3 925 firearms had either been lost or stolen in South Africa, and that 2 575 of these had been SAPS firearms. Only 192 of the total number had been recovered.

According to media reports, more than 60 firearms and about 50 000 rounds of ammunition were allegedly stolen from a specialised police unit in Mpumalanga.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=117397,1,22" rel="nofollow">http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=117397,1,22</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Mthethwa said the department had been disturbed by figures indicating that during the 2008/09 financial year a total of 3 925 firearms had either been lost or stolen in South Africa, and that 2 575 of these had been SAPS firearms. Only 192 of the total number had been recovered.</p>
<p>According to media reports, more than 60 firearms and about 50 000 rounds of ammunition were allegedly stolen from a specialised police unit in Mpumalanga.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kenneth</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/sue-nah-never/#comment-25895</link>
		<dc:creator>kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting will be the tender awarded in western cape to see if anyone who received it is not by anyway connected to da or financially supported da, the tender audit should be done to all provinces</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting will be the tender awarded in western cape to see if anyone who received it is not by anyway connected to da or financially supported da, the tender audit should be done to all provinces</p>
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