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		<title>By: Sipho</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/the-dalai-lama-and-human-rights-day/#comment-12976</link>
		<dc:creator>Sipho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let’s put everything in context:

Dalai Lama

comparable to Nelson Mandela, Gandhi, Desmond Tutu, Steven Biko and Aung San Suu Kyi

VS.

Chinese Communist Party:

Burma crisis and brutal suppression, murder for Chinese oil interest
Safron Monk Demonstration
Arms to Mugabe and taking Zimbabwe
warm relation with all the thugs of Africa
Support of Sudan’s oppressive regime for Oil
Decimate Mozambique forest for trees
Meddle in the politics of every country in the world with the threat of economic embargo
Suppression, genocide and destruction of Tibet
Suppression of Chinese Muslims in China
Threaten Taiwan
Live organ harvesting and brutal suppression of 100 million Falun Gong Chinese citizens
Ghost virus’s to 103 countries to “monitor” people
kill 60 million of its own people
polluting it’s country and the world at an incredible, dizzying speed
consuming the world’s resources at an incredible, dizzying speed
Huawei Telecom equipment with malicious code sold to UK and other countries give Chinese Communist party (CCP) ability to shut down vital systems of a country.
50 million people have left CCP and 50,000 leaving each month

Way to be a struggle hero, ANC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s put everything in context:</p>
<p>Dalai Lama</p>
<p>comparable to Nelson Mandela, Gandhi, Desmond Tutu, Steven Biko and Aung San Suu Kyi</p>
<p>VS.</p>
<p>Chinese Communist Party:</p>
<p>Burma crisis and brutal suppression, murder for Chinese oil interest<br />
Safron Monk Demonstration<br />
Arms to Mugabe and taking Zimbabwe<br />
warm relation with all the thugs of Africa<br />
Support of Sudan’s oppressive regime for Oil<br />
Decimate Mozambique forest for trees<br />
Meddle in the politics of every country in the world with the threat of economic embargo<br />
Suppression, genocide and destruction of Tibet<br />
Suppression of Chinese Muslims in China<br />
Threaten Taiwan<br />
Live organ harvesting and brutal suppression of 100 million Falun Gong Chinese citizens<br />
Ghost virus’s to 103 countries to “monitor” people<br />
kill 60 million of its own people<br />
polluting it’s country and the world at an incredible, dizzying speed<br />
consuming the world’s resources at an incredible, dizzying speed<br />
Huawei Telecom equipment with malicious code sold to UK and other countries give Chinese Communist party (CCP) ability to shut down vital systems of a country.<br />
50 million people have left CCP and 50,000 leaving each month</p>
<p>Way to be a struggle hero, ANC!</p>
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		<title>By: andre</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/the-dalai-lama-and-human-rights-day/#comment-12659</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and, 

If those millions of voters knew this, this 3/10000 chance, then we would get a different result come April.   

So this gaff - or lack of foreign policy towards the Lama - is bad enough. No, I lie, they don&#039;t have a foreign policy. All the fuss in this blog ... is nothing compared to our self-taught leader that is Zuma and what he will spring upon us. I ask myself the question: Who can govern this country? Who? The present ADMIN, certainly not, Zuma - Mr. 3 in 10000, no! As Ulrike Meinhoff once said &quot;Some talk about the weather. . . we don&#039;t&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and, </p>
<p>If those millions of voters knew this, this 3/10000 chance, then we would get a different result come April.   </p>
<p>So this gaff &#8211; or lack of foreign policy towards the Lama &#8211; is bad enough. No, I lie, they don&#8217;t have a foreign policy. All the fuss in this blog &#8230; is nothing compared to our self-taught leader that is Zuma and what he will spring upon us. I ask myself the question: Who can govern this country? Who? The present ADMIN, certainly not, Zuma &#8211; Mr. 3 in 10000, no! As Ulrike Meinhoff once said &#8220;Some talk about the weather. . . we don&#8217;t&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: andre</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/the-dalai-lama-and-human-rights-day/#comment-12658</link>
		<dc:creator>andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymouse,

Yes, I agree. Hitler was responsible for the deaths of 20 million people. However Mao, and during peace-time, was responsible for the death of, wait for it ... 70 million people.  The Great Leap Forward contributed to 20 million souls starving to death. 

An aside, it isn&#039;t up to the ANC to govern, it is those souls who are simply loyal to the ANC, and will surely vote for same again. So whether the ANC is fit to govern or not isn&#039;t the question at issue. The question(s) at issue is why will they return to power. There is a simple answer: those millions are not aware that you are 3 chances in 10 thousand of NOT getting AIDS when you sleep with somebody who HAS AIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymouse,</p>
<p>Yes, I agree. Hitler was responsible for the deaths of 20 million people. However Mao, and during peace-time, was responsible for the death of, wait for it &#8230; 70 million people.  The Great Leap Forward contributed to 20 million souls starving to death. </p>
<p>An aside, it isn&#8217;t up to the ANC to govern, it is those souls who are simply loyal to the ANC, and will surely vote for same again. So whether the ANC is fit to govern or not isn&#8217;t the question at issue. The question(s) at issue is why will they return to power. There is a simple answer: those millions are not aware that you are 3 chances in 10 thousand of NOT getting AIDS when you sleep with somebody who HAS AIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wessel - I&#039;ve been to Tibet twice, in 1995 and in 1998, and I can tell you - scenes like these are awfully real. Nearly got arrested at both occasions and lost all my video and photographic materials in the process. In Lhasa, Tibetan females are being sterilized against their will. Fact - there are twice as many Chinese soldiers in Tibet than what there are Tibetans (male and female). Fact - The Panchen Llama (2nd highest Llama) has been appointed by China - not by the Bhudist hierarchy. Fact - A very good friend of mine has been interned (presumably killed) for his contact with me over the internet. Many more unexplained dissappearances occur daily in Tibet. Actually, China (or, at least its regime) is busy committing so much Human Rights transgressions, that it makes Hitler&#039;s appear minor. Do we need diplomatic relations with such a country? NOOO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wessel &#8211; I&#8217;ve been to Tibet twice, in 1995 and in 1998, and I can tell you &#8211; scenes like these are awfully real. Nearly got arrested at both occasions and lost all my video and photographic materials in the process. In Lhasa, Tibetan females are being sterilized against their will. Fact &#8211; there are twice as many Chinese soldiers in Tibet than what there are Tibetans (male and female). Fact &#8211; The Panchen Llama (2nd highest Llama) has been appointed by China &#8211; not by the Bhudist hierarchy. Fact &#8211; A very good friend of mine has been interned (presumably killed) for his contact with me over the internet. Many more unexplained dissappearances occur daily in Tibet. Actually, China (or, at least its regime) is busy committing so much Human Rights transgressions, that it makes Hitler&#8217;s appear minor. Do we need diplomatic relations with such a country? NOOO!</p>
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		<title>By: Wessel van Rensburg (AKA mhambi)</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/the-dalai-lama-and-human-rights-day/#comment-12652</link>
		<dc:creator>Wessel van Rensburg (AKA mhambi)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in latest news - China denies this video is true and blocks YouTube to boot...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7962717.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in latest news &#8211; China denies this video is true and blocks YouTube to boot&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7962717.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7962717.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: lebogang Shuping</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/the-dalai-lama-and-human-rights-day/#comment-12649</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>`see no reason for you to open closed discussions. It has always been the position of those who oppossed TM that he is a dictater and collective discussion meant nothing to him.&#039; 

the ruling party is also in government and for ten years they let the Dictator T.M do as he pleases my question to you Mel are we in for another silent treatment by the very people we deploy to parly because the dont want to upset their new master J.Z as President ?

i find no reason not to allow the Dalai Lama it is excuse lame and set not to upset China finish and klaar!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>`see no reason for you to open closed discussions. It has always been the position of those who oppossed TM that he is a dictater and collective discussion meant nothing to him.&#8217; </p>
<p>the ruling party is also in government and for ten years they let the Dictator T.M do as he pleases my question to you Mel are we in for another silent treatment by the very people we deploy to parly because the dont want to upset their new master J.Z as President ?</p>
<p>i find no reason not to allow the Dalai Lama it is excuse lame and set not to upset China finish and klaar!!</p>
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		<title>By: sirjay jonson</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, life is never boring in the former rainbow nation.  Can&#039;t remember a week for eons without a new ANC f***-up revealing  its ugly nature.  Now what will it be next week, oh yes, the NPA decision Friday.  Whew, short weeks.  What fun we are having.  Agg shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, life is never boring in the former rainbow nation.  Can&#8217;t remember a week for eons without a new ANC f***-up revealing  its ugly nature.  Now what will it be next week, oh yes, the NPA decision Friday.  Whew, short weeks.  What fun we are having.  Agg shame!</p>
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		<title>By: Stung</title>
		<link>http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/the-dalai-lama-and-human-rights-day/#comment-12629</link>
		<dc:creator>Stung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Die Baas in Beijing het gepraat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Die Baas in Beijing het gepraat</p>
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		<title>By: Sne</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mel // Mar 24, 2009 at 4:22 pm
.......................................................

1. What do you mean by ordinary masses?

2. Have you considered the reasons why &quot;ordinary masses&quot; continue to give mandate to the ANC to provide leadership everytime the opportunity arises?

3. Assuming your argument that Thabo Mbeki&#039;s administration is being perpetuated is true, does that not mean it is in fact not Thabo Mbeki&#039;s administration which is being perpetuated but that of the ruling party which deployed him to the Presidency and &quot;recalled&quot; him?

This may hold water especially when you recall the &quot;iron curtain&quot; that ANC leaders like to conceal themselves behind, when faced with questions petaining to their leadership or government or ANC policies. The &quot;iron curtain&quot; is that there is collective leadership in the ANC so the person in question cannot give an answer. This was especially done by Zuma during his interview with Vuyo (the SABC 2 Morning Live presenter with Leanne Manas) in the height of the tension between the party leaders and the now COPE leaders (Shilowa and Lekota)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mel // Mar 24, 2009 at 4:22 pm<br />
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<p>1. What do you mean by ordinary masses?</p>
<p>2. Have you considered the reasons why &#8220;ordinary masses&#8221; continue to give mandate to the ANC to provide leadership everytime the opportunity arises?</p>
<p>3. Assuming your argument that Thabo Mbeki&#8217;s administration is being perpetuated is true, does that not mean it is in fact not Thabo Mbeki&#8217;s administration which is being perpetuated but that of the ruling party which deployed him to the Presidency and &#8220;recalled&#8221; him?</p>
<p>This may hold water especially when you recall the &#8220;iron curtain&#8221; that ANC leaders like to conceal themselves behind, when faced with questions petaining to their leadership or government or ANC policies. The &#8220;iron curtain&#8221; is that there is collective leadership in the ANC so the person in question cannot give an answer. This was especially done by Zuma during his interview with Vuyo (the SABC 2 Morning Live presenter with Leanne Manas) in the height of the tension between the party leaders and the now COPE leaders (Shilowa and Lekota)</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lebogang Shuping // Mar 24, 2009 at 3:43 pm 

what i find extremely funny is that all the wrong things in this past 10 years is placed at Thabo Mbeki`s door
what were the others cabinet members doing ? too afraid to say anything? lest they loose their perks?
could the same be said about the incoming ones?
are these the right type of people we want in Parly?
who will vote the scorpions out just because the party said so?the anc is clearly not ready to govern !!

I see no reason for you to open closed discussions. It has always been the position of those who oppossed TM that he is a dictater and collective discussion meant nothing to him. 

It will be wrong of you to suggest that the Anc is not ready to govern,yet it has been in goverment for a long period it has. Ordinary masses on the ground keep on giving it a mandate to provide leadership everytime the opportunity( Elections ) arise.

Why you relfect on JZ adminstration when such has not yet happened raises more questions than answers. The fact of the matter remains that TM,s adminstration is being perpetuated at the moment. There has been no dramatic changes in policies and it has to be accepted that reasons advanced for the issue around Dalai lama to access this peacefull country are genuine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lebogang Shuping // Mar 24, 2009 at 3:43 pm </p>
<p>what i find extremely funny is that all the wrong things in this past 10 years is placed at Thabo Mbeki`s door<br />
what were the others cabinet members doing ? too afraid to say anything? lest they loose their perks?<br />
could the same be said about the incoming ones?<br />
are these the right type of people we want in Parly?<br />
who will vote the scorpions out just because the party said so?the anc is clearly not ready to govern !!</p>
<p>I see no reason for you to open closed discussions. It has always been the position of those who oppossed TM that he is a dictater and collective discussion meant nothing to him. </p>
<p>It will be wrong of you to suggest that the Anc is not ready to govern,yet it has been in goverment for a long period it has. Ordinary masses on the ground keep on giving it a mandate to provide leadership everytime the opportunity( Elections ) arise.</p>
<p>Why you relfect on JZ adminstration when such has not yet happened raises more questions than answers. The fact of the matter remains that TM,s adminstration is being perpetuated at the moment. There has been no dramatic changes in policies and it has to be accepted that reasons advanced for the issue around Dalai lama to access this peacefull country are genuine</p>
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