Comments on: The dangerous constitutionalisation of our politics

By: Anonymouse

Anonymouse — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:10:18 +0000

Z – Yes I know – I have actually met the guy personally a few times, not only in court, and we’ve always had very friendly conversations – at his insistance, always in Afrikaans. His recent attitude towards the judiciary however astounds me, and one wonders whether he doesn’t have his eye on a much higher post in government – would be a pity though should he trade his usual level head for the perks of the gravy train.

By: z

Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:51:57 +0000

Mouse

Phosa is a mystery to me, I would like to give him the benfit of the doubt, but that’s difficult now. Do you know he wrote an Afrikaans poetry book? Found it in a library.

By: AB

AB — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:18:13 +0000

Anon
Agreed but its the first sensible thing to happen in Southern Africa for a while!

By: Anonymouse

Anonymouse — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:14:06 +0000

Mqo et AB – I sincerely hope this could be the greatest event since the early 1990′s when Madiba was freed and we got to have democtatic elections for the first time ever – but don’t you think its much too soon to cry “Viva TM Viva!”? There is still this divide between the JZ and TM factions in the land’s largest political party, which spells PROBLEMS – Malema et al recently cried that it was TM and his apartheid brothers that unleashed violence against protesters in KwaZulu Natal. While I would welcome any stability and peace (and economic prosperity) in Zim – we still have an internal crisis on hand, which I pray we get through unscathed.

By: AB

AB — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:20:39 +0000

Mqo
Could this just be the greatest event since 1994? Irrelevant what the terms of the deal are as long as our neighbours are at peace with each other.

By: Mqo

Mqo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:23:00 +0000

ALL
ATTENTION. TO THOSE WHO DOUBTED, THE MAN HAS PROVED EVERYBODY WRONG. A DEAL HAS BEEN AGREED TO IN ZIM!!! KHOSI I RESPECTFULLY BUDGE AND SAY YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG…..
VIVA TM VIVA!!!

http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/Zimbabwe/0,,2-11-1662_2392216,00.html

By: Anonymouse

Anonymouse — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:01:02 +0000

Z – I, of course agree wholeheartedly. JZ should never have been elected, they should’ve opted for a compromise candidate. What is scary though, is that guys like Mathews Phosa, someone that has earned respect (at least in my court – before he became Premier of Mpu, and so forth) as a lawyer who knows what the law is about, have since Polokwane jumped on the bandwagon of trashing the CC and the constitutio-legal system, and that just to let a Nincompoop like JZ rule a country, heading straight for a fall if this Circus is allowed to continue.

By: AndrewLaGrange.Com » "We’ll shoot and kill you if you continue to write these things," - Sbu Ngobeni

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:34:39 +0000

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By: z

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:43:33 +0000

Mouse

There are a few lawyers in the friendsofjz crowd who have spent a lot of time marketing their possible defense points for the Zuma trial, and have done so quite passionately. Thus the common belief among them that the NPA “HAS NO CASE”. A simple objective read through the indictment actually available on the friendsofjz site, will show that he has enough explaining to do that it should be in court.

Many of these people honestly belief that there is no real case against him. And though I might agree that some of the “conspiracy against him” points look interesting, it does not detract from the evidence and possible interpretations thereof as presented by the NPA.

In regards to the political implications there is a lot of good points made in the following editorial from the times (whatever your opinion of the editor):

“What the ANC wants is agreement among South Africans that Zuma is destined to be president — and it would be unseemly for him to be facing trial while in office.

They are right: it would be unseemly for a sitting president to face
trial.

But that is why they ought not to have selected someone with so large a cloud hanging over him.”

www DOT thetimes DOT co DOT za/News/Article.aspx?id=836052

By: Anonymouse

Anonymouse — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:41:44 +0000

Z – “Zuma, as depicted in the cartoon, still holds the power to change the course of these events and his supporters are supporting him.” … I agree, but will he? And will his so-called followers listen? In the light of the past two days’ happenings, esp in KwaZulu Natal, I don’t think so. Already we are seeing and hearing subtle threats to the justice system and the judge involved – “He looks like Van der Merwe, a sober man that will find in favour of Zuma, but …”