The notion of King Zuma goes against the grain of a constitutional democracy!

You get what you pay for (except of course if you in government then the tax payer pays). If you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

The opposite is also true: I know many men and and women who hold LLB degrees, and I think of them as stupid. A formal education also does not make a person honest, and it does not give you integrity.

Prime Minister John Vorster had a LLB degree. If Vusi Simelani is a fit and proper person to be appointed as NDPP, surely Vorster, if he was still alive, would also have been a suitable, fit and proper candidate for the post.

I certainly respect and welcome your dissenting view.

Let me add something else though: If there is one golden rule in transformative discourse, it is that we always take the diametrically opposite position to whatever the DA’s stance is on a particular matter.

I view this as one more reason to welcome the appointment of Cmd Simelane.

Despite that, let me try to correct you and Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder here. Guys you are not focusing on the question or issues raised in this discussion.

I have never in my post mentioned or demanded that Zuma should have formal education. This is a manufactured statement from both of you guys and is based on Musa’s misunderstanding of my initial post where I said if Abacha, Amin and Seseseko et al were alive, JZ could have used his state power to ensure they play leadership role in structures like the SADC and AU. From this statement, Musa cooked the allegation that I am comparing Zuma with “someone who’s stupid and uneducated”. (i) there is no comparison in my post, (ii) if Musa and you Mikhail know and understand what you are talking about here you would have understood that the focus of my post in as far as it relates to Zuma and the leaders I have mentioned above is on them having committed illegal, immoral and criminal activities as opposed to them being educated or not; which make my post relevant to the Simelane discussion we are currently dealing with; (iii) still on this concerted aspect of formal education, Musa shows some worrying signs of misunderstanding what he is talking about and being a liar – by his statement on formal education above, he, in my understanding claiming that Zuma is actually educated while the other leaders I have mentioned are not educated. In an attempt to enlighten him, I cite just one leader, Idid Amin and do the actual comparison based on the education aspect he is so passionate about and which he claimed I did initially based my alleged comparison on and I do not find the difference he claims there is. And this is the garbage that Mikhail Dworkin Fassbinder you are surprisingly buying at a highest bidder and accusing me of what I have never said.

If you have been a regular to this blog, you would know that I am on record of having stated in one of the topics relating to Zuma discussed that the kind of education we require from Zuma is to knows how to differentiate the right from the wrong and to be able to act as a leader when someone under his watch does something that is wrong, and not formal education. And the same goes not only for Malema but anyone who can demonstrate the above in his holding of public office.

I welcome you Musa and Mikhail not to respect my garbage posts with your responses but I will continue responding to yours because I consider them useful in many ways, and I will also try not to fail to correct you based on facts and figures when I think you are going astray.

But Simelane was, in this instance, a witness and as such, he should have been forthcoming when Trengove SC put questions to him. One could even argue that Simelane was doubly obliged to be forthcoming given that he is an admitted advocate. Advocates are officers of the court. That status affords them certain capabilities. But very importantly, to gain that status, people must meet certain criteria and must bear certain responsibilities. I expect that apart from the Jeff Radebe’s of this world (that is, people who come up with very curious legal opinions) you would have to look far and very wide indeed to meet a lawyer who will not agree that an advocate that lied under cross would not be fit and proper to be a member of the Bar.

I must admit i am in awe of Zuma he plays a very well calculated game but he has the money for it