If we’d followed Stalin’s advice I might have been Deputy Prez next year. And wouldn’t that be a whole lot of fun? Thank god that the voters exercised their judgement when they voted instead of waiting to consider their verdict and then vote me out next time round.

Maybe they learnt something from voting in GWB in twice.

I have a problem with the statement that we need to give Zuma a chance to be the President of the country, and then judge him afterwards. What’s wrong with judging him based on what we already know about him?

Here is what we know
• When he was the Deputy President of the country, Zuma supported the ‘evil’ Mbeki policies including the AIDS policy. So if Mbeki is evil, so is Zuma.
• Zuma may still be facing corruption charges during his Presidency. Isn’t this worrisome?
• Zuma slept with an HIV positive woman (knowingly so) while in charge of the AIDS program. His judgement is suspect.
• This woman was young enough to be his daughter. In fact she considered him an uncle. He betrayed the trust of this woman’s family. He is therefore, morally suspect.
• Zuma allowed Shaik to manipulate him. The evidence in the Shaik case paints a gloomy picture of an irresponsible Zuma who has a problem managing his finances.
• The fax evidence in the Shaik case (not disputed by anyone) points to Zuma being aware that the R500,000 per annum was a bribe. Some will say he is corrupt.
• Zuma flip flops on economic policies; depending on who he speaks to. His integrity is suspect.
• He has been a leader of the ANC for over 10 months; yet he has failed to unite the party.
• He is the main reason the party is splitting. Lekota and others cite the call for a political solution to Zuma’s case as one of the main reasons for the split.
• He can’t call Malema to order. In fact, it appears he condones Malema’s tirade. In these USA, he went on to liken Malema with a young Mandela.
• Although they may deny it, the SACP used Zuma to wrestle control of the ANC. Blade Nzimade, Gwede Mantashe and Zwelinzima Vavi have said it loud and clear that those who think the economic policies of the country are not going to change, are living in a fool’s paradise. We know that Zuma told some American investors and financial reporters that there will be no changes in economic policies including Reserve Bank’s inflation targeting policy. Does this mean Zuma is living in a fool’s paradise or is he just lying?

Of course this list is not at all exhaustive, but it does not paint a good picture about the suitability of Zuma for the position of President of South Africa.

This type of argument is so horribly flawed it is nonsense.
• That Mbeki was bad does not make Zuma good. It is even so when one considers the fact that Zuma, when he was Deputy President of South Africa, agreed with Mbeki on everything from AIDS to Zimbabwe.
• The issues raised here are about the suitability or non-suitability of Zuma for the position of President of South Africa. Refute the allegations without dragging Mbeki into this.
• Some of us have landed support to TAC and other bodies that attacked Mbeki on his policies. We are prepared to do the same thing to Zuma or anybody else for that matter if we think their actions are bringing shame to our country.
• Mbeki is history and Zuma is the future that is why the attention is on Zuma.

I cant believe you such naive not to understand political dynamics. My advise to you though, is leave poliitics to politicians and stop with your shallow comments

Why would JZ engage TM when he is still a member of the ANC. The correct forum will be the NEC Meeting of the ANC and not in Public. Samantha i just dont have an energy to respond to your fallacious accusation of the ANC.

Most of you guys are going to be admitted when JZ sucessfully lead this country with distinctions.

I cant believe you such naive not to understand political dynamics. My advise to you though, is leave poliitics to politicians and stop with your shallow comments

Why would JZ engage TM when he is still a member of the ANC. The correct forum will be the NEC Meeting of the ANC and not in Public.

Most of you guys are going to be admitted when JZ sucessfully lead this country with distinctions.